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tulip Sun May-17-09 12:59 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
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#71559, "Upset with WIC (VENT)"
We have always had a WIC person come to our home to recertify us. But now that my kids are two-years old WIC is hassling me about doing a home visit. They are "this close" to insisting that I bring the children in to the office for recertification. I am in a near-panic. There's no way this can happen with me by myself.
1 - If it's raining they'll get completely soaked, both coming & going. It takes some time to load the kids in/out of the stroller, and during that time if it's raining they'll just get drenched. BTDT, it's not right to do it to them again. No way am I going to make them sit around in wet clothes & hair.
2 - Even if we get there, what am I going to do, force them to sit in the stroller while we wait for Lord knows how long in the reception area, then wait (still strapped in) while we meet with whomever about our qualifications? Like three 2-year olds are going to do THAT without protest? Of course I wouldn't even dream of letting them out of the stroller because I couldn't keep them under control, and I know Hope would freak out & scream & cry & attach herself to me like glue (she always does this whenever we're somplace new).
I don't know why, but this has made me so deeply angry today. It's bad enough they want me to take them somewhere and expose them to people who probably have sick kids or are sick themselves (sorry, but seems like most "poor" folks like us don't have the best of health or personal sanitation practices). But to force us to endure something like this is an extreme hardship, if you ask me. It's upsetting enough to still need WIC in the first place, but to make us go somewhere that I know in advance will be an extremely upsetting, unpleasant experience for my kids is sending me over the edge.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
Born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Misty Lee, Jan 07th 2005, #1
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), LisaM817, Jan 07th 2005, #2
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), tulip, Jan 07th 2005, #3
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), g_plus_3, Jan 07th 2005, #4
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), tulip, Jan 07th 2005, #5
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), g_plus_3, Jan 07th 2005, #9
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), ktzkids, Jan 07th 2005, #12
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), kathysyd, Jan 07th 2005, #13
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), ggg123, Jan 07th 2005, #6
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Weathered of 3, Jan 07th 2005, #7
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), chrissy92972, Jan 07th 2005, #11
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), kaknecht, Jan 07th 2005, #8
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), my three sons, Jan 07th 2005, #10
Enough already, tulip, Jan 07th 2005, #14
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Momtris, Jan 07th 2005, #15
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Mommeee, Jan 07th 2005, #16
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), tripplefun, Jan 07th 2005, #17
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), 2sassi4u, Jan 07th 2005, #18
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Party of 5, Jan 08th 2005, #19
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), trpsn1, Jan 08th 2005, #20
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), mom_expecting_3, Jan 08th 2005, #21
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), MrsCsthree, Jan 08th 2005, #22
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), the quadmother, Jan 08th 2005, #24
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), paham3, Jan 08th 2005, #23
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), TiffaniRay, Jan 08th 2005, #25
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), trpsn1, Jan 08th 2005, #27
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), TiffaniRay, Jan 08th 2005, #29
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), trpsn1, Jan 08th 2005, #32
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), triplet_mommy, Jan 08th 2005, #43
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Misty Lee, Jan 08th 2005, #31
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), kunster, Jan 08th 2005, #26
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), kathysyd, Jan 08th 2005, #28
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), PAML, Jan 08th 2005, #33
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RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), joy of three, Jan 08th 2005, #30
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), paham3, Jan 08th 2005, #35
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), chrissy92972, Jan 08th 2005, #36
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Misty Lee, Jan 08th 2005, #37
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), trpsn1, Jan 08th 2005, #38
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Misty Lee, Jan 08th 2005, #42
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Erikall, Jan 08th 2005, #39
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), Zacplus3, Jan 08th 2005, #40
RE: Upset with WIC (VENT), jami, Jan 08th 2005, #41
WIC ADVICE (TULIP PLEASE READ), 5584, Jan 09th 2005, #44
Misty Lee Fri Jan-07-05 03:31 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
843 posts
#71560, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Fri Jan-07-05 03:47 PM
Aw, Tulip - aren't government offices the WORST??
I got a note from our pedi saying that he did not want them exposed to the kind of stuff that is likely floating around the WIC office, and they accepted that. I don't have to ever bring them in to get recertified.
EDITED TO ADD: I didn't clarify - I go in, but the kids don't have to. The pedi said that due to their prematurity, they shouldn't be in a public health office, so he gave me a note stating the same, with their weights and lengths for the WIC folks to put in our file.
Misty Lee
BBB Spontaneous Triplets
Born Nov. 8, 2004 at 33 weeks 3 days
This, too, shall pass
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LisaM817 Fri Jan-07-05 03:43 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
1725 posts
#71561, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tulip:
Not to sound insensitive, but I am very surprised that they have been recertifying you at home for this long. WIC budgets are getting tighter and tighter and the cost of providing services go up exponentially when home visits are provided. Having worked in public health for many years, we were losing WIC providers because the reimbursement wasn't sufficient to deliver the services. I think you will encounter other parents in the WIC office that have 3+ children who have found a way to make their appointments.
Good luck,
Lisa
Mom to Aidan, Christian, and Rachel(10.03.01 @ 36wks)
Lisa
Mom to Aidan, Christian, and Rachel (10.03.01 @ 36wks)
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tulip Fri Jan-07-05 03:56 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#71562, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 2
Thank you for your insensitive reply to my vent. I doubt seriously if I would find many WIC mothers who have three children all under the age of two, not unless each child had an 8-month gestation and the mother got pregnant in less than a month of giving birth each time. And certainly if she did have three children under the age of two not all three of them would be mobile.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
Born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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g_plus_3 Fri Jan-07-05 04:10 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
200 posts
#71563, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 3
Or perhaps moms with twins plus one.
I agree with Lisa and I don't think her comment was insensitive in any manner. From my experience with WIC, you are lucky they have ceritifed you at home for as long as they have. Other people have to bring their kids in, so should you.
Gretchen
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tulip Fri Jan-07-05 04:21 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#71564, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 4
You know, THIS is why I don't use TC as an avenue when I need support. I can post thousands of positive things for other people, go out of my way to help others, but when *I* need a little support, or if *I* need a "safe place" to vent, I can't do it here. I should have known better than to even think I could vent at TC! I'm such a fool. This is not the first time that I've come here to express frustration or some other irritating tidbit about being a mother to triplets, but it's certainly my last. Each time I've done so I've been peppered by people who "don't mean to be insensitive" or are quick to make snippy comebacks. I hesitated to even put up this vent because I suspected there would be someone, probably more than one someone, who would not be supportive.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
Born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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g_plus_3 Fri Jan-07-05 05:12 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
200 posts
#71565, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 5
Just because we have a differing opinion does not make us insensitive or unsupportive.
When we did WIC, I had to fight to not bring them in their first RSV season, and after those first few months I always had to bring them in. I was alone as well. There's a difference between not bringing in newborns who are at high-rish for RSV and not bringing in two-year-olds because it will inconvenience the mother. If you choose to participate in these programs, it just kind of goes with the territory. So, you can either choose to be upset about it or be glad you made it two years without bringing them in. But there is really no need to be in a near-panic. You will do what all triplet moms do - load them up, brings snacks and books to entertain, and use purell on their hands. Good luck.
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ktzkids Fri Jan-07-05 05:20 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
487 posts
#71566, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 5
Hi Tulip,
Just wanted to agree with you on this point. I have asked a very simple question and was bombarded with a bunch of parents who didn't think I should even *ask* such a question. SO... I am sorry you have gotten the responses you did. It sucks. I know you're just venting, and I hope you find some of the other posts were helpful.
You will always find people in the world who are insensitive. There are people who are better off, and worse off, than you. There will always be people who can hurt your feelings no matter what they say. I, of course, would not be so forgiving should it happen to me because it's always different when you're on the other side of the "abuse", but I just wanted to let you know that not everyone is out to hurt you (intentionally or not), and I hope that you (and I) will be able to post here in the future for a vent... and just ignore the responses you don't like
Gina, Mom to:
Kimber 1# 9 oz
Tristan 2# 3 oz
and Zane 2# 3 oz
born 7/17/04 at 27 weeks
Gina,
Mom to GBB, the most amazing 27 weekers!
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kathysyd Fri Jan-07-05 05:32 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1035 posts
#71567, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 3
Tulip,
All 4 of my kids were on WIC for the first 4 years and I always took them in with me. I had no choice. I took them to recertify and when I had to just pick up the vouchers. The kids weren't always happy to be there but that was life! I had 4 kids under 2 for awhile but we did survive the trips.
mom to:
Ryan 28 The Lawyer!!!!!
Jason 26 The college grad
Chris 26 The New Homeowner
Tim 26 The college grad
I love hearing their versions of their childhood memories!!
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ggg123 Fri Jan-07-05 04:44 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
770 posts
#71568, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tulip- sorry about your WIC situation. I wanted to share my experience. After the girls were born I went to the WIC office to see about qualifications, etc. When I got there I was reading a brochure and it said that the children had to come in every so often for an iron test. I went through the roof. No way was I going to do this. So when they call my name, I asked the put-out information taker about the shots and she refused to give me the info and was continuing with the standard info. A nicer lady spoke up and said that the shots were required, so I just left. A friend of mine had triplets recently and I know she got a letter from her physician about her babies delicate health and doesn't have to go it. I don't think they do any type of home visit here. Sorry it was a rough time for you. I got a jurt duty letter in the mail in October and if they call me for the first intial meeting I had planned on taking the girls with me but since they did not get the flu shot I hesitate taking them in...ugh
Hope it gets better for you and you can find a common ground with the WIC dept.
Jennifer
ggg,3
Jennifer
ggg, 3 1/2
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Weathered of 3 Fri Jan-07-05 04:50 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
748 posts
#71569, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
I totally understand. When mine were just shy of a month old they tried to get me to bring them into the office even after I told them about the fact that they were premature and at risk foe sickness. Even after I got a note from their doc, I was still given a hassle because they didnt have them there to get their weights.
Would you be able to get a Doc notice saying you are unable to bring them in?
I was shocked at how some of the parents at the WIC office just let their kids cough all over eachother and put their mouths on chairs and toys. I wanted so badly to tell them "Dont you know that there are germs all over that stuff?" At times I was just itching to pick some of those kids up off the floor and wipe their hands with the antibacterial wipes I carry in my purse.}>
Hope you can get this resolved.
Cher
Mommy to g/b/g Chloe, Jr., and Paris born at 34 wks 7/13/04
Cher
Houston,Tx
#1-IVF miracles
Mom to Chloe, Paris, and JR
born at 34 wks 7/13/04
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chrissy92972 Fri Jan-07-05 05:15 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1344 posts
#71570, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 7
I do not think anyone is being insensitive, if it is raining and you are afraid of your kids getting wet then cancel and reschedule. With that being said I do not take my kids to the WIC office with the exception of one time due to my kids being 32 weekers and coming home on monitors, having asthma etc. The pedi gives me a note with their weights, heights etc and I take the note in and have my mom watch my kids. As far as I know Tulip your kids were not really that premature, have no health issues so what is the problem with taking them? I take my kids to speech therapy everyweek and they sit in the stroller for 1 1/2 hrs while I occupy them with snacks, books, little toys. Each baby gets out of the stroller for 30 minutes, but they spend one hour each direction in the car and 1 1/2 hrs total at therapy with only 30 minutes out of a sitting position. It is expected of them and they do it. Since my kids have been born they have never had the chance to get out of the stroller and walk in the mall, doctors office (except to be examined), grocery store, state fair, amusement park, chuck e cheese, etc and they are use to sitting. Not sure how I would keep up with 4 kids not contained anyway. Only their older brother gets to walk.
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kaknecht Fri Jan-07-05 05:10 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
37 posts
#71571, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tulip,
I just have to say you have been extremely lucky to have someone come to your house. We have had to take our boys in since they were 4 months old and just out of the NICU each time to re certify. We even have one with BPD and very sick and we still have to take them in we do not have the option. I am surprised that they even had the option this long. It is difficult but possible to get them there. I have been taking mine for 2 years. It is a pain though..
Kristi Knecht
Charlie, Cameron, & Nicholas -- 9/19/02 29w 5d
Kristi Knecht
Charlie, Cameron, & Nicholas -- 9/19/02 29w 5d
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my three sons Fri Jan-07-05 05:13 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
188 posts
#71572, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
I think a lot of it depends upon the state/county you are in. I live in PA and have had to take my three every 6 months to get recertified- I have them have their iron tests done at the pedi office though. I look at it like this, I feel truly privileged to be able to get WIC so I do what they ask within reason. I always try to schedule their appt. the first one in the morning, this way no waiting and not hardly anyone else in there. I can see where you are coming from that it's annoying, but think about how annoying it would be to not get all of the things that WIC provides.
Mom of BBB born 7/1/02 at 33 weeks
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tulip Fri Jan-07-05 05:35 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#71573, "Enough already"
In response to Reply # 0
I GIVE UP! Please just stop replying to this thread. I won't be reading any more responses.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
Born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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Momtris Fri Jan-07-05 05:36 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1426 posts
#71574, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tulip,
Please don't feel like you can't vent here, you can. I think that there are so many different people and personalities that sometimes things are going to clash. Maybe we all just need to realize that a vent is just that-a vent. We are annoyed with something, whether it is large or small, significant, or not-something is botheering us, and we need to vent. Who else to go to but others that understand what it is like to be in our shoes, the moms here at TC. I don't think you were looking for anyone to solve your problem, or set you straight-just someone to listen. It doesn't mean we have to agree, just listed-that is what friends do and that is what I consider everyone at TC to be.
Liz
Proud mom to:
Stevie-age 10-my sports nut!
Shawn-age 6.5-the hockey star-big 1st grader!!!
Erin-age 3.5-the mother hen!
Katie-age 3.5-the snuggler!
Samantha-age 3.5-the pistol!
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Mommeee Fri Jan-07-05 06:20 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
61 posts
#71575, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
I was allowed to recertify once without the babies during RSV season (when they were 8 months old), this required an exemption from my pediatrician. All the other times I am required to bring them in. I also take them with me for my other WIC appointments, (my 4 year old, education, etc.) so I do take all six children with me. Our office will not do home visits and require physician exemption or nothing! My only suggestion is to have a physician exemption written for you.
Leeza
Momma to:
Barret and Angel Cyrus 9-24-96
Genevieve 4-28-98
Susana 2-20-00
Franklin, Katherine & Elisabeth 4-5-02 at 29.1 weeks
and two tiny angels Robin & Taylor lost in 1994 & 1999
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tripplefun Fri Jan-07-05 08:54 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
960 posts
#71576, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
We don't qualify for wic, but my sister and sister in law get it. We had a horrible snow storm here this week, schools were closed for 2 days, which is unusual here. My sister had a wic appt. yesterday(thursday) she called them and asked to reschedule. They told her she COULD NOT reschedule. She had to take her 3 kids with her in horrible road conditions, which is not right but they did not give her an option.
I am sorry they are making you come in to the office. I have had a few bad experiences here, however those people that have shunned me have not chased me away and i truly hope you stick around here at TC.
Tulip,I enjoy reading posts from you, you have helped so many HOM's here that it wouldn't be the same here without you.
sydney, morgan, cade 5
mathew 16
Sandy
mom to 4 kids
oldest is 18, and trio age 7
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2sassi4u Fri Jan-07-05 10:14 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
264 posts
#71577, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Fri Jan-07-05 10:19 PM
Tulip,
I am in no way trying to be insensitive but I would like to give you another perspective on this. We do not qualify for wic and let me tell you our formula costs are WAY up there as anyone knows that does not qualify for wic. I realize you dont use formula and probably never did since you obviously breast fed but basically you get ALOT of free food. What I'm trying to say is that since (if I remember right) your babies never had any real medical issues and it is just more of an inconvenience , I have a hard time being sympathetic. I mean, if I could get wic to buy our formula I would load them up and go there once a week if I had to in order to save hundreds of $$$$. Am I making any sense??? I'm not trying to be harsh at all, I'm just saying that you should be thankful that you even get wic and what is a little inconvenience in order to get some free food? Also, you are such a strong woman and always seem to have everything under control so I would think that this would be no big challenge for you.
Dana
Dana
www.fancygrams.net
Proud Mom to
Joshua- 23yrs
Adam- 21 yrs
Adryon Storm, Bryon Alan Jr., and Canyon Rain born @35w1d on 6-18-04
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Party of 5 Sat Jan-08-05 07:15 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2187 posts
#71578, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
As a mother of triplets who has applied yet is not eligible for the program I think you should be grateful for the government program that ultimately helps your children. If you don't agree with their policies perhaps you shouldn't participate in their program. The policies apply to everyone and not just you.
And you shouldn't insuate that all people who participate in WIC are sick and dirty simply because they are "poor folks". I have many friends who particiate in WIC who would be insulted by such insensitive remarks.
I do emphathize with you but one of the realities of having triplets is that you will be challenged at certain times.
Michel
Michel
Born 12/21/03
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trpsn1 Sat Jan-08-05 08:27 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
382 posts
#71579, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Sat Jan-08-05 09:47 AM
I personally don't think that the WIC office is asking you to do an inconceivable thing. I could understand being upset if your children were infants and/or born very premature, but your children are older and healthy (as far as I know?). Yes, it is an inconvenience, but honestly, it doesn't appear to me that it would be considered a "hardship" for your situation. I can think of several instances where I HAD to take all four children (when they were VERY young) with me to a county appointment (one of my dd's has a disability). Yes, I was irked, but learned to deal with it. My attitude was that yes, I have four children, but this is the way it is going to be and I have to adjust for my own independence and my childrens also. Of course, I was taking the risk of them all getting sick (especially my dd with the disability)but that is life and I didn't expect state and county rules to bend for my convenience. My dd has medicaid through a special state program due to her disability and I am grateful she qualifies and I will (and have) jump through any "hoops" that are required.
I hope that you continue to frequent TC for both receiving and giving advice. Your posts are valued here! You must know that we all have differing opinions and just because some posters do not agree with you doesn't mean that you cannot vent here.
I remember starting a post that was intended to focus on our blessings and it was totally "mauled" by some of TC. It was quite upsetting because a few posters turned it into something very personal and attacked me personally based upon *assumed* information about my financial status. I do not see any personal attacking in any of these responses. I see differing opinions.
trpsn1
SAHM to Spunky
Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
"I looked on child rearing not only as a work of love and duty but as a profession that was fully as interesting and challenging as any honorable profession in the world and one that demanded the best that I could bring to it." Rose Kennedy
trpsn1
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Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
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mom_expecting_3 Sat Jan-08-05 10:26 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
180 posts
#71580, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Well I have read all these responses and I havent replied because I was afraid that Tulip would not recieve my comment (she said she is not reading any more), but I just wanted to say that I did not even know that they would do home visits for wic. Had I known that I probably would have got them to do it for me. If they offer it, why not? I have taken my babies in quite a few times. It is a pain in the butt, but we have to do what we have to do. I feel that you got lucky and used to them coming to your house, but had they not done that in the first place you wouldnt have this vent. I am sorry that you were affended by ppl on this board, I really enjoy reading your posts. So please dont back out now, just take it with a grain of salt and keep going. I do not post alot, mostly because I am usually reading post in between doing something with the babies, but I really learn alot on this site.
Patricia, the one who cries like she is mad at the world. Joshua, the one who grunts constantly. Leigh Anne, my quiet, easily pleased baby. And Allen, my get into everything 5 year old.
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Allen, my BIG 6 year old. Patricia, full of smiles. Joshua, I love my sun glasses and cell phone. Leigh Anne, I love to be on someone's hip or lap. We are walking and getting into everything at 14 months old.
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MrsCsthree Sat Jan-08-05 10:48 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
164 posts
#71581, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
First of all I would like to say I am poor, but not sick or dirty! I have also had to take all three of the babies, by myself, since they were 4 months old. And I have had to bring them in with their heart monitors all in tow. We were never given the choice of having WIC come to the house and recertify us. I have also had to take my 27 weekers out each month last year for their RSV shots because they didn't come out to do that either. My three have done very well each time in the office. The nutritionist was great about helping me keep them occupied and I always made sure I had something for them to drink and snack on to help.You would be amazed at how well they adjust. I am sorry but this post just hit me the wrong way. I am glad that I am able to get some sort of help for our family. My husband works his butt off for us and it's nice to know that some of that is coming back to us.
Beth
mom to
Britney 4-29-91
Lindsey 3-7-94
Hailey, Hunter and Kaitlyn 27weeks 6days 4-25-03
http://lilypie.com>
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the quadmother Sat Jan-08-05 11:06 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
528 posts
#71582, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 22
Hi Beth!!
I also took all four of my quads (28-weekers) by myself to the WIC office for every recert (from the time they were tiny newborns), and although I was concerned about RSV, I didn't worry about taking them. I just made sure that only the people who worked there touched my babies - and only after they had washed their hands, and that children in the waiting room did not come close to my babies.
I understand your concerns, Tulip, but it really will be OK. They are two, and their immune systems should be developed enough to withstand RSV without serious complications. At some point you have to start looking at them as regular kids than as tiny, fragile preemies. That's not always easy for a mom who has been through so much, but it is not only possible, but necessary. Take it from one who knows first hand.
Julie
mother to 3yo bbgb:
Stosh Alon
Noach Ari
Rivkah Ivanova
Nuriel Alexander
"The 'hard' is what makes it great." -- Tom Hanks in "A League of Their Own"
Julie
single mom and BRAND NEW NURSE!
Stosh Alon (B)
Noach Ari (B)
Rivkah Ivanova (G)
Nuriel Alexander (B)
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paham3 Sat Jan-08-05 10:52 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
250 posts
#71583, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
wow, I can't believe they let you certify at home ever. I have brought my babies into the WIC office since they were born, by myself. I was so grateful for the help that I never though to ask if someone could come to my house or to complain. I have postponed my 1 year recertification twice because of rain and snow. I usually have to park far away and it's hard pushing the stroller through the snow. I am too far away from my one year check up now to use the info from that visit but the wic office told me as long as I have the Dr. fill out the forms I wouldn't have to bring the kids with me but now it's too late. My problem is I don't have anyone to watch them at home anyway so if I have to go so do they. I just keep my kids away from others in the waiting room. Frankly, poor people on WIC probably have healthier kids than a lot of two income families who bring their sick kids to day care 50 hours a week. I am going to try to get on public healthcare too. We have insurance but the copayments and medications are just killing me. Last week my husband's whole check went to food, coopayments and medications for the kids. I am filling out college applications for my 2nd oldest and the financial aid application alone is going to cost $275. I can't believe that it could cost so much to apply for financial aid.
anyhow, good luck. I know how stressful it can be.
peggy
Peggy
mom to
Tricia 19
Lyndsay 18
Sydney 12
Millie 10 and
Robert, Julian and Max 9/2/03 @ 36wks
http://lilypie.com>
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TiffaniRay Sat Jan-08-05 11:12 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4089 posts
#71584, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 23
You know, she said enough was enough. You don't have to rub it in anymore as she was just venting & not directing it towards anyone here. It is your problem if you feel she was. Tulip~Here is my story:
We don't *officially* qualify for WIC either BUT since my trio qualified for SSI, in NJ they automatically got Medicaid in return qualified them for WIC. Now, I did not know this until they were 11 months old so I missed out on almost a year's worth of formula. I had to bring them in for their initial visit so they could be weighed & have their iron tested. I never had to bring them again though, they just needed the weights from the Pedi. Now, if they offered home visits, you bet your Patootie I would have jumped on it. And yes, there were filthy, poor sick people in there, that doesn't mean I am or you are or Tulip is. It's a fact. People milk the system, we all know that. And if I had to bring my kids, fine, I would have and I would have let them throw fits, cry, scream and annoy other people. I bet that would have been the LAST time I would have had to bring them, LOL!
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)
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trpsn1 Sat Jan-08-05 12:06 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
382 posts
#71585, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 25
For me personally, part of my venting "procedure",if you will, is to try to get a different perspective on the situation. It feels good to vent, step back and maybe get some info that maybe wasn't considered by myself, to help me view it in a different light. Yes, I might get a little p*ssed off at first (human nature) but as an adult, I like to welcome differing opinions and from what I see of Tulips other valuable and informative postings she would welcome the same? Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see any intentional *personal* attacks in any of the responses to Tulip. It is also obvious to me that the respondents realize nothing was directed personally at anyone on TC.
Yes, it is tough to have to bring along children to these types of appointments, I wholeheartedly agree (been there, done that), but it is an inconvenience and we are all faced with those every day of our lives. Is it an incovenience for me when I have to bring a very ill child to the ped and drag my other three with me? Yes, of course, but should I expect the ped to come to my house just because it would be more convenient to me? It is called life and I feel blessed and thankful that I am dealing with these incoveniences. In my case, I could very well not have these blessings and I embrace lifes everyday irritations and incoveniences for what they are worth. trpsn1
SAHM to Spunky
Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
"I looked on child rearing not only as a work of love and duty but as a profession that was fully as interesting and challenging as any honorable profession in the world and one that demanded the best that I could bring to it." Rose Kennedy
trpsn1
SAHM to Spunky
Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
"I looked on child rearing not only as a work of love and duty but as a profession that was fully as interesting and challenging as any honorable profession in the world and one t
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TiffaniRay Sat Jan-08-05 12:29 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4089 posts
#71586, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 27
If you don't remember Tulip when she first signed up here then let me refresh you. She was afraid to go out of the house alone with the kids, her dh gave her a hard time and she came here looking for help. Her vent falls under this again. She was just looking for the support of "You can do it!" not to be flamed for it.
"Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see any intentional *personal* attacks in any of the responses to Tulip."
Maybe you have selective reading cause there are a few posts on this thread that do intentionally attack her. This board in the past few months has become very hostile. No wonder some of our Charter Members only respond once in a blue moon. I must have an awesome Pedi cause when my trio were going through Synagis he came to our house & gave them their shots during his lunch break. Along the lines of Tulip's words, I will not check this thread again. There are way more important threads to respond to and offer SUPPORT!
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)
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trpsn1 Sat Jan-08-05 02:05 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
382 posts
#71587, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 29
Sat Jan-08-05 02:06 PM
If you kindly would point me in the direction of the posts that do intentionally attack or even flame her, I would be glad to eat my words. I haven't seen anything resembling a flame here, unless there is more to the story that just isn't in black and white?
Although, I have again re-read the responses, I cannot find anything that looks like a personal attack. However, the responses to Lisa and Gretchen by the original poster could be perceived as defensive.
As far as hositily goes....well, I guess I shouldn't comment on that. I would hate to have this response viewed as a personal attack.
trpsn1
SAHM to Spunky
Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
"I looked on child rearing not only as a work of love and duty but as a profession that was fully as interesting and challenging as any honorable profession in the world and one that demanded the best that I could bring to it." Rose Kennedy
trpsn1
SAHM to Spunky
Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
"I looked on child rearing not only as a work of love and duty but as a profession that was fully as interesting and challenging as any honorable profession in the world and one t
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triplet_mommy Sat Jan-08-05 10:10 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1073 posts
#71588, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 29
"No wonder some of our Charter Members only respond once in a blue moon."
And no wonder some NEW or NON-CHARTER members are afraid to ever even post....
Just curious, what makes one a "charter" member?
I'm thinking the "Charter" members certainly have their "flame" and "hostile" times, as do the rest of us.
It's so sad that we, who should be united, can become so divided.
~Michelle
mommy to: Lexxy, Sophie, & Izzy
(4/12/03)
~Michelle
mommy to: Gracie, Sophie, & Izzy
(4/12/03) The best day of my life!
http://theglennfamilyadventures.blogspot.com/
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Misty Lee Sat Jan-08-05 01:45 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
843 posts
#71589, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 25
THANK YOU Tiffani! I have been thinking about this thread and not really knowing how to voice my feelings...there's no point in trying to be politically correct and therefore dance around the truth - there ARE dirty, sick people in those public health offices. Are ALL of them dirty and sick? No, for heaven's sake - but it only takes ONE to get my kids sick. And that's not acceptable. I did not want to bring my babies to that office and I found a way around it. I only hope and wish that Tulip could too. I'm not going to sit here and talk about how grateful I am to be lucky enough to qualify for WIC - my tax dollars since the day I started working have gone to fund that program, and in my time of need, I DESERVE WIC. They should be grateful for my support of them, not the other way around. Flame me if you want, but don't forget where your money goes once it gets taken out of your paycheck - WIC is simply that money coming back to you. You shouldn't have to lick anyone's bootheels or be unreasonably inconvenienced to get the benefits of YOUR money.
EDITED TO ADD: We also have a nurse that comes and gives the boys their Synagis shots - and while I'm grateful for that as well as WIC, I also know that I PAID FOR IT with my tax dollars in all the years that I have worked. The help that we get now has been paid for many times over.
Misty Lee
BBB Spontaneous Triplets
Born Nov. 8, 2004 at 33 weeks 3 days
This, too, shall pass
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kunster Sat Jan-08-05 11:15 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
386 posts
#71591, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 23
>. I am filling out college
>applications for my 2nd oldest and the financial aid
>application alone is going to cost $275. I can't believe
>that it could cost so much to apply for financial aid.
>
>anyhow, good luck. I know how stressful it can be.
>
>peggy
There should NEVER be a charge to file for financial aid. That is ridiculous and unethical. I was a Financial Aid CoOunselor and would be happy to help you fill out the forms -- for FREE. Please e-mail me about this so I can help you! gottriplets@gmail.com or kunster@aol.com
Laura M. - Chicagoland
mommy to miracles
Hannah, Sarah and Emma
4/21/00 --- 28w5d
see us online at www.markunfamily.com
"Many children, many cares; no children, no felicity." -Christian Nevell
Bovee
Laura M. - Chicagoland
mommy to miracles
Hannah, Sarah and Emma
4/21/00 --- 28w5d
http://thetripletmom.blogspot.com/
"Many children, many cares; no children, no felicity." -Christian Nevell
Bovee
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kathysyd Sat Jan-08-05 12:15 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1035 posts
#71592, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 26
Laura,
I agree with you. We have 4 kids in college right now and have never paid to apply for financial aid!
mom to:
Ryan 28 The Lawyer!!!!!
Jason 26 The college grad
Chris 26 The New Homeowner
Tim 26 The college grad
I love hearing their versions of their childhood memories!!
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PAML Sat Jan-08-05 03:36 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2403 posts
#71593, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 23
Peggy-just a sidenote here..financial aid forms (FAFSA?) shouldn't cost anything. Maybe the school's application cost that much? I had to fill out the financial aid paperwork before qualifying for a student loan for my Master's degree, the application was free. I'm wondering if you're talking about the school's application fee.
PAM
ggg @ 31+ weeks
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PAML Sat Jan-08-05 03:48 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2403 posts
#71594, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 23
Sat Jan-08-05 03:49 PM
double post, sorry
PAM
ggg @ 31+ weeks
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joy of three Sat Jan-08-05 12:35 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
322 posts
#71595, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
as this is going on and on and on...
i don't think this really has anything to do with WIC. i also don't think this has anything to do with tulip's capability of bringing her kids into the office to recertify, as we all know how capable she is. we all know how frustrating and annoying it is to be accustomed to a certain way of doing things and then told that it has to change....especially when that means more work for us. it has nothing to do with being ingrateful. i'm sure we've all been frustrated at some type of change in our lives, but once we did it once or twice, it became routine. i remember it happening many times and maybe wanted some support in the beginning, like, "that REALLY sucks but you can do it!"
joy
30w g/g/b
Joy- mama to
boy, 3lbs 15oz
girl, 4lbs
girl, 4lbs 1oz
at 32+ weeks on Jan 22, 2005
and our baby girl, stillborn at 40 weeks on Sept 9, 2007
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paham3 Sat Jan-08-05 04:20 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
250 posts
#71596, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Filthy, Dirty, Poor, sick people? There are sick people everywhere you go....is it the filthy, dirty, poor part that bothers you? There IS a point in being politically correct. Lets try to remember that people from all walks of life have triplets and read these pages. I ashamed at what some of the postings on this string have touched on.
Peggy
mom to
Tricia 19
Lyndsay 18
Sydney 12
Millie 10 and
Robert, Julian and Max 9/2/03 @ 36wks
http://lilypie.com>
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chrissy92972 Sat Jan-08-05 04:22 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1344 posts
#71597, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 35
Very well said.
Chrissy
Joey age 6
Brianna, Matthew, and Ryan 11/5/02 32wks
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Misty Lee Sat Jan-08-05 04:50 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
843 posts
#71598, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 35
Sat Jan-08-05 04:52 PM
I'm not going to walk on eggshells when it comes to my children's health. Does being poor, dirty, or sick make someone a bad person? No. Let's not confuse the issue here. I've been sick before, and I've been poor before. Heck, I'm poor now! The issue at hand is not about whether or not it's ok to be filthy, dirty, poor, or sick. It's about keeping one's children healthy, and limiting their interaction with anyone who may be filthy, dirty, or sick is what will help keep them healthy. Unfortunately, in many cases, the poor are all of those things. It's not the rule, as we all know, but it is a fact of life. For example - would you want your children in close proximity to a homeless person who, through no fault of their own in many cases, may not have bathed recently, may have body lice, scabies, any contagious virus or something else that is dangerous to them? It's fine to be self-righteous and politically correct in our words, but would our actions match them? I'm not ashamed of anything I've said in this thread - and I don't think I've said anything that anyone else may think but not say.
Misty Lee
BBB Spontaneous Triplets
Born Nov. 8, 2004 at 33 weeks 3 days
This, too, shall pass
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trpsn1 Sat Jan-08-05 07:11 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
382 posts
#71599, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 37
Misty,
I agree that it is important as parents to do everything in our power to keep our kids healthy. No argument with that here! I have a child with Downs that has a weakened immune system and I understand the importance of keeping the family healthy. However, as a Christian, I wouldn't want my children to feel as if they could not approach a homeless person because he/she is filthy and/or carrying something contagious. I encounter prejudices from time to time regarding disabled people and it would breaks my heart knowing that people are possibly staying away from my daughter because of something that she has no control over. No one is perfect and I am raising my children to value every human life, not matter the circumstance, social status, or appearance.
Tulip,
I can understand you being upset with the inconvenience of having to take along all three children to the WIC office, yes, it's a pain in the backside. I guess the point I am trying to make here is, maybe to try to put it into perspective? Of course, it is going to probably suck, but you will be able to do it! Heck you have managed to bf triplets, this should be a piece of cake! Inconvenience yes, hardship no. A hardship to me would be having to bring three children in wheelchairs.
I hope you feel like you can continue to post here because you really do have alot to offer this site! You come right to the point, give great advise (and sometimes lifesaving) and are not affraid to say it like it is no matter who's toes you step on. Well, maybe yours have been stepped on today, but I think it was done with the best of intentions, just as I am sure your intentions are always the best.
Best wishes,
trpsn1
SAHM to Spunky
Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
"I looked on child rearing not only as a work of love and duty but as a profession that was fully as interesting and challenging as any honorable profession in the world and one that demanded the best that I could bring to it." Rose Kennedy
trpsn1
SAHM to Spunky
Mojo
RinRin
Bugaboo
"I looked on child rearing not only as a work of love and duty but as a profession that was fully as interesting and challenging as any honorable profession in the world and one t
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Misty Lee Sat Jan-08-05 09:22 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
843 posts
#71600, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 38
Please don't get me wrong trpsn1 - I am also a compassionate person who would be in a very sorry state if not for the kindness of many of my fellow human beings. I would hate to think that my children avoided someone because they were homeless, too - but I'm talking about babies, infants, toddlers mingling with people who may have communicable diseases. Totally different story. I don't mean to sound as if I cross the street to avoid the less fortunate - that is not the case at all. In fact, DH and I discussed this year that when our boys are old enough, we would like to make it a family tradition to volunteer at soup kitchens on Thanksgiving and Christmas Days, and that that would be a wonderful way to spend our holiday together and have our children learn what the holidays should really be about. I really would hate to think that I am coming off as an unloving, selfish, inconsiderate human being - but the issue here was never the quality of people who are on WIC, it was the quality of the health of those who may visit WIC's offices, and one's health has nothing to do with the kind of person they are.
Misty Lee
BBB Spontaneous Triplets
Born Nov. 8, 2004 at 33 weeks 3 days
This, too, shall pass
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Erikall Sat Jan-08-05 07:56 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1023 posts
#71601, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tulip, I didn't take the time to read the other replies. I just wanted to say I wish WIC up here woul dhave done home visits! I am dreading our upcoming appoinment on the 19th, as there is always some hacking kid in the waiting room. Last time, even though I push the stroller away from any people, and especially away from kids, a kid ran up to the stroller and pulled Vivian's hair!!
I hate going to the office, and when it is flu season like this, I hate it even more! I would make do without it,but there is NO WAY we can afford all the pediasure for Vivian!
I hope you get your in-home visits back, maybe a note from your Pediatrician would help?
Erika
Mom to:
Matt (1991) Megan (1994) and ^Eric Jr^ Levi and Vivian (2003) at 26 weeks
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Zacplus3 Sat Jan-08-05 08:11 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
277 posts
#71602, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
I haven't read the replies but we just get our pediatrician to write a note that says due to rsv season the kiddos cannot go out in public...even tho this year they would be ok...then i can go by myself.
It's sad but I actuallly enjoy getting out to WIC by myself....ahhhhh
Liz
Zac "I'm the big brother" (3 years old)
Matthew "hug me"
Ian "tickle me"
Seth "snuggle me"
(spontaneous triplets born 12/19/02 27 weeks gestation) WE'RE TWO NOW!!!
Liz
B 8/01
BBB 12/19/02
BELIEVE
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jami Sat Jan-08-05 09:08 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1355 posts
#71603, "RE: Upset with WIC (VENT)"
In response to Reply # 0
Ok, so Tulip isn't reading this post anymore...
We've had WIC since the trio was born since we went from a 3 person family with 2 incomes to a 6 person family with 1 income.
I feel sooo lucky that I get FREE formula, etc. every since darn month! It saves a fortune! Yes, I HATE going to WIC, find it inconvenient as heck, am a bit ashamed using my "checks" at my upscale supermarket, but I do whatever I need to do to make our lives simpler (moneywise).
That Tulip got home visits from WIC for these 2 years is amazing and I'd be annoyed too if they decided it wasn't worth their while anymore. I have 4 kids on WIC and bringing in everyone was a pain in the a**!! I've only had to bring in the triplets once and Nyomi 2X & brought a friend with me the first time.
Jami
mom to fairy-girl & spontaneous b/g/g triplets born at 36 weeks.
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5584 Sun Jan-09-05 11:26 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
332 posts
#71604, "WIC ADVICE (TULIP PLEASE READ)"
In response to Reply # 0
HI
I also was able to have WIC come to my house for the first year. I tried to schedule their dr apts around the WIC schedule so the dr office could do the heights/weights and iron. WIC was fine with this. UNTIL I moved to a bigger county. I actually called the WIC State office and spoke to the highest person I could reach and explained my situation. Well, I got a call the next day from the local WIC office and they were happy to accomodate me!! I used to work for the county so I know what they really can and can't do. I have brought them all in once and insisted that I either be the first or last appointment and not have to wait in the waiting room... I do the same and the dr's office.. We are luckly that we do/did qualify for WIC and it has helped allot but the WIC staff does have obligations to their clients. I have also reported a staff member to the state about her "terrible" (to say it nice) treatment of the clients. This does help because on the next appointment she is no longer dealing face to face with clients...
From what I understand to Public Health has been getting budget cuts BUT the Wic program has not but has actually seen an increase in funding due to more people qualifing..
Good Luck
Jen
jennifer
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