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Mesg #259283 "Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author Mamakitten3
Author Info Member since May 29th 2006
244 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 02:58 PM
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My god, Its over. Stop picking on this poor woman. She has done nothing to you all personally. If you dont like what she writes on her posts DONT READ THEM.
Picking on her grammer was a low blow and you should be ashamed of yourself. I know women in general are pretty horrible to one another but come on. This getting out of control!
If this truly was an intervention and your so concerned for her and her family, Are you concerned for your actual community? Do you reach out to others and try to help them in their time of need? Or do you just sit in front of your computer and pick on the weak?
I think what happened was WRONG WRONG WRONG and cruel. I would never want to be so hurtful to someone. If I have an issue that I think needs to be addressed to someone individually, I write just to them not the whole community. I feel there is no reason to try to humilate another just for my personal satisfaction.
I hope you all had a good laugh and felt great about yourself at her expense. I know I wouldnt rest easy if I had hurt and made someone cry from my words.
Lauren
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RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy, bsebllmom9, Feb 27th 2007, #1
RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy, kylamel, Feb 27th 2007, #2
RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy, Mamakitten3, Feb 27th 2007, #3
RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy, bsebllmom9, Feb 27th 2007, #4
RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy, kylamel, Feb 27th 2007, #5
RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy, jonib, Feb 27th 2007, #6
RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy, bsebllmom9, Feb 27th 2007, #7
Mesg #259288 "RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author bsebllmom9
Author Info Member since Jul 18th 2005
1955 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 03:04 PM
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In response to Reply # 0
Wait.....isn't this old news now and we've moved on??? Why feel the need to bring it back up...
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/
http://www.walkamerica.org/stuckeytriplets
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Mesg #259291 "RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author kylamel
Author Info Member since Jul 18th 2005
1430 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 03:13 PM
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In response to Reply # 1
AMEN, Michelle.
the subject has been dropped.
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Mesg #259297 "RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author Mamakitten3
Author Info Member since May 29th 2006
244 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 03:20 PM
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In response to Reply # 0
The reason I brought it up was the ppl are replying to Jeffs post still talking about her. I bet not one of you addressed her in an email or Pm. You all just wanted to talk about her.
I talked to Amy via email and she is devastated about what happened. You all did get your wish and she wont be posting about her life anymore. HOORAY for you all, You WON!!
Lauren
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Mesg #259298 "RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author bsebllmom9
Author Info Member since Jul 18th 2005
1955 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 03:23 PM
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In response to Reply # 3
Wasn't my wish, believe me, I have more important things to wish for in my life!
I hope since you have finally gone public with your feelings about this, that you are helping her get the help/support she needs...She needs a true friend like you to help her out...
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/
http://www.walkamerica.org/stuckeytriplets
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Mesg #259299 "RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author kylamel
Author Info Member since Jul 18th 2005
1430 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 03:24 PM
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In response to Reply # 3
Maybe some posts were a little on the "mean" side, but why can't someone express concern on this forum. Everything is ok until someone has the guts to call a spade a spade.
If I posted every other day about a major trauma in my life and it was FOR REAL, I would want someone to reach out to me - I think that would be my way of reaching out for help.
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Mesg #259305 "RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author jonib
Author Info Member since Oct 11th 2005
149 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 03:36 PM
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In response to Reply # 5
I can't stop myself from jumping in on this trainwreck.
We are grown women that come here for support. If you have major crisis over and over again what "support" is it that you get if everyone just sends "hugs" or "hang in there mama's"?
So somebody asks a question that anyone who reads would also like to ask..then it's a "picking on Amy". Ladies, you put yourself out on a public forum as this and you set yourself up for what you get back.
Come on! If you can't be sarcastic about it or make light then this would be a really heavy board that would not even be worth coming to...hurt feelings over the internet...I think it's damn nuts!
I can understand the moderators pulling, but hope this does not become a "Stepford" forum where you only get the shiny happy posts and replies...I'd like straight answers to my questions and I expect to give straight answers to others (which also includes my opinion, sarcasm and sense of humor)
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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Mesg #259308 "RE: Enough is Enough, quit picking on Amy"
Author bsebllmom9
Author Info Member since Jul 18th 2005
1955 posts
Date Tue Feb-27-07 03:43 PM
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In response to Reply # 6
Funny how a lot of posts seem to get responses from the "perfect" mommies and then the rest of us "real" mommies don't feel like posting an answer because of the crap the "perfect" mommies will fling...
This is a bunch of women, hormonal on any given day. I mostly play nice, but there are times and days when I don't want to play nice and yes my mother taught me if I didn't have anything nice to say than to shut up, but I don't wanna!!!!
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/
http://www.walkamerica.org/stuckeytriplets
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Thursday, May 21, 2009
Feb 26 2007 Jeff Bleyl address the board about the MOT call out
BYU49er
Mon Feb-26-07 08:30 PM
Member since Jul 20th 2005
178 posts
#259023, "Forum Suspicions"
I cannot believe the number of emails I have received today about the post I pulled this morning regarding a "suspected" faker. These kinds of questions need to be addressed by either Tiffani or myself directly and NOT ON THE FORUM. If anything needs to be posted on the forum in reference to the matter, the moderators will do that. It becomes a major problem when someone is exposed for being a faker and is not. This was the case with Amy. Damage has been done to both her and the integrity of the Triplet Connection and most importantly the value of the forum to all users that cannot be repaired or corrected.
We have said it before and will say it here publicly again -- if you suspect that there is some information on the forum that needs our attention, let us know. We will take a look at it but keep the back and forth arguments off the board.
Jeff Bleyl
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RE: Forum Suspicions, ryanjs, Feb 26th 2007, #1
RE: Forum Suspicions, Tasha, Feb 27th 2007, #2
RE: Forum Suspicions, jonib, Feb 27th 2007, #3
RE: Forum Suspicions, Grandma28, Feb 27th 2007, #4
RE: Forum Suspicions, Colette, Feb 27th 2007, #5
RE: Forum Suspicions, ryanjs, Feb 27th 2007, #6
RE: Forum Suspicions, fivenelli, Feb 27th 2007, #7
RE: Forum Suspicions, tulip, Feb 27th 2007, #14
RE: Forum Suspicions, foreveramom, Feb 27th 2007, #9
RE: Forum Suspicions, Jen., Feb 27th 2007, #10
RE: Forum Suspicions, jonib, Feb 27th 2007, #8
RE: Forum Suspicions, CindyB, Feb 27th 2007, #11
RE: Forum Suspicions, madmolly, Feb 27th 2007, #12
RE: Forum Suspicions, bsebllmom9, Feb 27th 2007, #13
RE: Forum Suspicions, tulip, Feb 27th 2007, #15
RE: Forum Suspicions, boomom, Feb 27th 2007, #17
RE: Forum Suspicions, Zaz, Feb 27th 2007, #16
RE: Forum Suspicions, madmolly, Feb 27th 2007, #18
RE: Forum Suspicions, Grandma28, Feb 27th 2007, #19
RE: Forum Suspicions, bsebllmom9, Feb 27th 2007, #20
ryanjs
Mon Feb-26-07 10:39 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
702 posts
#259070, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
It may not be appropriate to respond to this, but I just wanted to say thank you Jeff for this post. I was a bit taken aback by how easy it is to "accuse" people of certain behaviors or to make assumptions about someone that we don't really even know. Seeing these kinds of posts makes me feel apprehensive to post for fear that others are going to make assumptions about me. I appreciate your efforts to keep "order" on the website and I know I speak for others here when I say that we should all feel welcomed and supported here and not have concerns about what others are going to assume about us based on our posts. Thank you for encouraging us to continue to provide a supportive environment in which HOM families can seek advice and support without judgment or retribution. I understand that fakers do exist and that some people on this board have been hurt by them in the past - but your advice is very important; that suspected fakers should be reported to the moderators. Again, thank you.
Jessica
G/G/B born November 15, 2005 at 29w/4d
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http://lilypie.com>
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Tasha
Tue Feb-27-07 10:11 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1195 posts
#259156, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
Jeff,
I respect that this is your board and you can pull any post you feel doesn't belong on TC. However, for the record I wanted to say that nobody was accused of being a fake in the thread in question. On the contrary, if read the thread it was stated many times they believed she did in fact have triplets.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
to order a 2007 Multiples Calendar
www.bluegrasstwinsclub.org
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jonib
Tue Feb-27-07 10:13 AM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
150 posts
#259158, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
To echo Tasha, what was being said mainly was if indeed we were her only support system with the overwhelming difficulties she faced on a daily basis,that she probably needed some additional assistance.
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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Grandma28
Tue Feb-27-07 10:26 AM
Member since Feb 03rd 2007
41 posts
#259164, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
Thanks Jeff! I was shocked when I read the first post. My heart ached for the mother. We all have crosses to bear, some more than others. Also, we must remember that we do not all handle things the same!!!!!!!!! That doesn't make one right and one wrong, it makes the world go around. If WE do not want to be judged ourselves, then we should NOT judge others! I come here as a source of hope, support and comfort to get through this trying time in our lives. Having triplets is surely one of the most trying things a person can go through. Especially healthy ones!! Not all are so lucky. It makes me afraid to post here re: how my DDIL is doing. How sad.
Barb
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Colette
Tue Feb-27-07 10:59 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
450 posts
#259181, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 4
I also agree with Tasha. I read the posts and no one questioned if she was real or fake. As a matter of fact many said that she did in fact have triplets. What does seem to be the case is that there are MANY of us who feel there is a potentially serious problem that needs to be addressed and maybe just sticking our heads in the sand and ingnoring it just isn't working anymore. It sure didn't work with the whole Mandie Clark situation...(and i'm not saying that she is a faker either). Maybe now that it's out in the open the moderators can look into this further.
Colette
AJ (6)
Dominick, Joseph & Rocco (2 1/2)
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ryanjs
Tue Feb-27-07 11:36 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
702 posts
#259197, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 5
Sorry to keep this going but I just have to say that it doesn't matter whether or not she was necessarily accused of being "fake" in the thread. It is the simple fact that people felt it was ok to "talk about" another person openly on the forum. It is one thing to send PMs to each other or even to notify the moderators about your concerns with this person but it another thing all together to call them out publicy and risk being wrong and worse inflicting further emotional pain on someone who is clearly struggling with many issues already in her life. I felt as though I was in high school again reading those posts and I just don't think it was appropriate. I will say again, as I and others have said, this kind of behavior deters people from feeling free and open to post their struggles without fear that others will "talk about them behind their back." That is not what this forum is about. Just my opinion.
Jessica
G/G/B born November 15, 2005 at 29w/4d
http://lilypie.com>
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fivenelli
Tue Feb-27-07 11:55 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
182 posts
#259207, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 6
I understand what you are saying, Jessica. But, as in the Mandie Clark situation, people on the board had no idea that others had also been reaching out to the current person privately and were being ignored. Think of all of the people that sent their money and used items to "Mandie" without ever really knowing that they were being taken advantage of. I'm not saying that the current person is taking advantage of anyone, but certainly that the situation with this person needs to be addressed.
I think it was Tulip who stated that she didn't want to stand by and see the children go unprotected, knowing that she should have said something sooner. If we truly want to help the parents on this board, allowing things to go on without saying anything (and I know that people had contacted the moderators - which didn't seem to change anything) was certainly not helping. There doesn't seem to be a solution that will make everyone happy and feel good about themselves. I hope at least that there is a solution that will help this family out of these dangerous situations.
Jeanne
Mommy to Frank, Grace & Sarah 1/18/02
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tulip
Tue Feb-27-07 03:59 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
5902 posts
#259315, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 7
Well yes, my concern is for the children. However, I am very saddened at how things went down. Anyone who is experiencing such desperate times as Amy would not be helped by what happened here. There is no way that publicly discussing the traumas in her life would encourage her to reach out to us.
Yes, forum participants deserve to be protected from scammers & fakers. Given the recent past and societal trends, I guess this kind of reality is going to be with us. I am glad that Mandie was outted. I wonder if we can somehow come up with a process to protect ourselves? Maybe it isn't possible? What I also wonder is how we can, as a community of triplet parents who I believe DO care for each other, help one of us if it appears something tragic is about to happen or already happening. But I don't know if it's our place to help unless help is asked for. And if help is asked for, then we have to find a way to ensure that help is needed, that we're not being scammed. But at the same time, what do we do when it's clear that something is very wrong, but we're not being asked for help? For the sake of the children, such as children who are being physically harmed (like at the daycare) or sexually abused & molested (as Amy described happened at home), aren't we bound to step in & DO SOMETHING?
I don't know. I just don't know. The reason I don't know is because this is an internet community. This isn't my neighborhood. If Amy was my neighbor I'd be there, in person. I'd know which agencies to contact for her to receive respite care & assistance. I'd know which law enforcement agencies to call. But since she is my internet neighbor, I am fairly powerless, other than prayer, of course.
Perhaps we can continue this discussion and find productive answers. I hope so. The internet has become our neighborhood, it's our friendship hall, our meeting place. We need to have a way to help our neighbors. For many of us with strong personal convictions, it's our duty to help. And we need to have a way to protect each other if we happen to discover that someone among us is a proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.
Obviously, what happened this weekend didn't work. Okay, lesson learned. Well, I hope it's learned. This has happened before. I hope it doesn't happen again. Let's figure out some other way to handle things. I think it would be helpful for our moderators to participate in this kind of discussion, because they're more aware of the legal considerations & restrictions than we are.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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foreveramom
Tue Feb-27-07 01:32 PM
Member since Jan 30th 2006
632 posts
#259249, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 5
You are SO right, Colette. Is everyone here supposed to be an enabler? Are we supposed to just "oh, I'm so sorry you're going through this for the 258th time this year" to a person who seems to crave the sympathy of others for crisis after crisis. It just feels wrong and takes up time from those issues that truly need to be addressed on this board. Newbies (those with just 35 or so posts) fall prey to those seemingly-manufactured crisis situations and then they comment on the injustice of it all when they have no background. Once again, not productive to this forum.
Lesa
Mom to: Kristi - 20, USAF, wife & mom **Kevin - 18, a Chemical Engineering Honor Student at USF **Kelli - 16, Principal's Honor Roll student **Angus - 4, beautiful redhead **Ruca, Nadia, Max - 2, GGB triplets www.angusandthetriplets.com
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Jen.
Tue Feb-27-07 02:08 PM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
112 posts
#259262, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 9
I think enabling is the perfect word for what is happening here. Everyone thinks that as long as we are all "nice" then everything will be okay, the reality is that in some situations it will make things worse and in this case...much worse.
When things get swept under the rug (again) frustrations will only increase and eventually upstanding members of this community will leave. Maybe the disclaimer at the bottom should say something about not caring about the frustrations of the members and how everyone is just supposed to keep thier mouth shut??? Unless you have the 258th tragedy of the day that is....then feel free to speak up.
Jen
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jonib
Tue Feb-27-07 12:06 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
150 posts
#259211, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
It kind of goes with my question on another post. I understand this is a support forum, however when it appears that someone has such major crisis it is not unfair to question if they have additional support and/or resources to enable them to deal with these problems in addition to the virtual world we have here.
I guess I'll ask again here...is this board meant to be a "hang in there you are doing a great job mamma" at all times, or is it ok to raise a concern when there appears to be a serious problem?
If I know the rules I will comply...for people to get "hurt feelings" or feel "flamed" sounds crazy to me. This is the internet people...get some tough skin. If we can come on here as moms with different issues and have lively debate on topics we throw questions out about don't we all walk away with something??
We will not all agree on everything as previously stated, however, I can get "fake support" from people who don't understand having triplets...when I come here I want the real deal. See Tulips reply to my post re "Abby's at it again"...hurt feelings? no, honesty from another poster with good intentions and ideas for me to try.
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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CindyB
Tue Feb-27-07 02:35 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
300 posts
#259271, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
I don't post often, but I browse frequently since 2004 and I was even noticing an alarming trend in her posts.
Several months ago I recall her starting a post about her myspace page. I hit the link and was shocked by all the details she had about her kids. She had enough info for someone to track her down in 5 minutes and anyone would know enough about her life to easily convice her kids that they knew them. Now granted, I could just be a paranoid person, but I posted to her on her thread here that she might want to be careful about exposing so much on there as I now had all kinds of info about her as does anyone who goes to her page and she doesn't know if everyone has good intentions. She became all dramatic and said now she had a stalker because of what I said. I just rolled my eyes and haven't posted to her since.
Considering the content of her posts since then, she either needs to become more paranoid or less dramatic, I am not sure which, but I feel that her posts were escalating to a point were any true friend would need to have a heart to heart with her if all she posts about is true. I am not sure how mean the pulled posts became, but it seems fair to ask with compassion at some point. How many times in the news do we hear of stories were someone needs to step in, but no one ever did and everone says "Someone should have done something.". At what point do we have to ask the difficult questions or risk becoming silent bystanders to something that truly needed attention?
Cindy
Paul and Andrew
Kristen, Rachel and Michael
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madmolly
Tue Feb-27-07 03:15 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1195 posts
#259294, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
You are all correct that Amy was not labeled a faker in that pulled post. In fact, there was specific mention that she was not a faker. That is a moot point.
It would be a gross exaggeration to state that the original post, and those that followed, were intended to "support" Amy or aide in her difficulties. Seriously. Starting a post "Munchausen by internet" and then attacking Amy's grammar or spelling as it relates to her chosen career and calling her (at best) an exaggerator or (at worst) a liar is well beyond wanting to offer support. In fact, if she is truly unstable, then the demise of her "support" outlet could have catastrophic ramifications.
Playing armchair psychologist is inappropriate. Name-calling is inappropriate. Resulting in vigilante justice is inappropriate. The Mandie Clark fiasco was investigated then addressed by the moderators and a public announcement was made to ensure the integrity of the board and the protection of it's members. It is a stretch to correlate that situation with this witch-hunt regarding the validity of the outrageous stories contained in Amy’s posts.
I split the bitch between newbie and veteran. I have seen my share of drama on this board (as I am usually involved in it! LOL!). However, for the post (and the others related to it) to have been allowed to remain would have contributed to the demise of this support group as a whole. That's not to say that healthy debate is unacceptable. Although, the gang-up style of attack that occurred on one member is unacceptable. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the post should have been pulled. Kudos to Jeff and his team.
All that said, I didn't see a post from the moderators stating whether or not there is cause for concern about Amy's mental stability or her extremely complicated life. Now that we have completed this exercise (Thank you Tasha for having the guts to bring this concern to everyone's attention), is someone following up with her? Munchausen or not, liar or not, someone should check in on her to ensure that further damage was not done.
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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bsebllmom9
Tue Feb-27-07 03:18 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1962 posts
#259296, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 12
Well let's hope Lauren is doing that for us all...
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/
http://www.walkamerica.org/stuckeytriplets
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tulip
Tue Feb-27-07 04:04 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
5902 posts
#259317, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 12
"All that said, I didn't see a post from the moderators stating whether or not there is cause for concern about Amy's mental stability or her extremely complicated life. Now that we have completed this exercise (Thank you Tasha for having the guts to bring this concern to everyone's attention), is someone following up with her? Munchausen or not, liar or not, someone should check in on her to ensure that further damage was not done. "
AMEN TO THAT! Please, can we check on her? Is she okay? Are her children okay?
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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boomom
Tue Feb-27-07 04:38 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1300 posts
#259338, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 15
>
>AMEN TO THAT! Please, can we check on her? Is she okay? Are
>her children okay?
Tulip,
That is my concern with this whole mess. Because TC is a support organization for expecting parents and for parents with HOM's is there any way that her welfare can be inquired upon?
Gina
G 12yo
BGG(Down Syndrome)9yo
"You will know sorrow like few others and yet you will know joy above joy. You will meet dirty faced angels on playgrounds who are kind to your child without being told to be." Susan F. Rzucidlo
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Zaz
Tue Feb-27-07 04:33 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
719 posts
#259337, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 12
Wait a minute. I am little confused. Are you changing your tune, Lea? If I remember correctly, I believe you were part of the stand up comedy routine of purposely misspelling words in several posts to mock Amy and garner a few laughs.
Now, you're giving kudos to Jeff and his team for pulling the inappropriate posts in which you were involved?
Is this post your apology for being part of the gang who posted the gang-up style of attacks?
Lisa
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madmolly
Tue Feb-27-07 04:55 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1195 posts
#259352, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 16
I actually posted that I thought the girls were just being mean and picking on her. Then I posted if drama was the concern, I could match her drama with my posts. I even stated that I should be labeled right along with her as many of my posts are also vents. (Granted not about abusive daycares, mystery illnesses, and child molestation, but still..I have my drama!) Additionally, I said that it had turned into the mob mentality and was no long an intervention as it appeared was intended by the original poster.
LOL! I did joke around in an effort to lighten the mood of the thread, as is my way. However, I did not poke fun at Amy. I was making fun of Jen, who made a personal attack on grammar and spelling. Aparently, that was lost on you.
I have not changed my tune and I make no apologies.
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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Grandma28
Tue Feb-27-07 04:59 PM
Member since Feb 03rd 2007
41 posts
#259356, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 16
Not sure where I should respond here, but a quick note, Amy emailed me this morning after I posted a thank you for pulling the post. She thanked me for the post, and is very hurt. I know I am NEW here and don't know what many of you do. But, I do have much life experience. And, we all know we don't want to feel as if we're being attacked.
Amy still reads these threads, why not reach out to her yourselves? Whether you live where she lives or not, you can offer support in many ways.
As triplet moms you all have huge hearts, open them in the right way.
If you don't want to be involved so be it. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Grandma Barb
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bsebllmom9
Tue Feb-27-07 05:04 PM
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#259360, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 19
Lesa tried that and she was attacked for it....
Michelle
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#259023, "Forum Suspicions"
I cannot believe the number of emails I have received today about the post I pulled this morning regarding a "suspected" faker. These kinds of questions need to be addressed by either Tiffani or myself directly and NOT ON THE FORUM. If anything needs to be posted on the forum in reference to the matter, the moderators will do that. It becomes a major problem when someone is exposed for being a faker and is not. This was the case with Amy. Damage has been done to both her and the integrity of the Triplet Connection and most importantly the value of the forum to all users that cannot be repaired or corrected.
We have said it before and will say it here publicly again -- if you suspect that there is some information on the forum that needs our attention, let us know. We will take a look at it but keep the back and forth arguments off the board.
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RE: Forum Suspicions, ryanjs, Feb 26th 2007, #1
RE: Forum Suspicions, Tasha, Feb 27th 2007, #2
RE: Forum Suspicions, jonib, Feb 27th 2007, #3
RE: Forum Suspicions, Grandma28, Feb 27th 2007, #4
RE: Forum Suspicions, Colette, Feb 27th 2007, #5
RE: Forum Suspicions, ryanjs, Feb 27th 2007, #6
RE: Forum Suspicions, fivenelli, Feb 27th 2007, #7
RE: Forum Suspicions, tulip, Feb 27th 2007, #14
RE: Forum Suspicions, foreveramom, Feb 27th 2007, #9
RE: Forum Suspicions, Jen., Feb 27th 2007, #10
RE: Forum Suspicions, jonib, Feb 27th 2007, #8
RE: Forum Suspicions, CindyB, Feb 27th 2007, #11
RE: Forum Suspicions, madmolly, Feb 27th 2007, #12
RE: Forum Suspicions, bsebllmom9, Feb 27th 2007, #13
RE: Forum Suspicions, tulip, Feb 27th 2007, #15
RE: Forum Suspicions, boomom, Feb 27th 2007, #17
RE: Forum Suspicions, Zaz, Feb 27th 2007, #16
RE: Forum Suspicions, madmolly, Feb 27th 2007, #18
RE: Forum Suspicions, Grandma28, Feb 27th 2007, #19
RE: Forum Suspicions, bsebllmom9, Feb 27th 2007, #20
ryanjs
Mon Feb-26-07 10:39 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
702 posts
#259070, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
It may not be appropriate to respond to this, but I just wanted to say thank you Jeff for this post. I was a bit taken aback by how easy it is to "accuse" people of certain behaviors or to make assumptions about someone that we don't really even know. Seeing these kinds of posts makes me feel apprehensive to post for fear that others are going to make assumptions about me. I appreciate your efforts to keep "order" on the website and I know I speak for others here when I say that we should all feel welcomed and supported here and not have concerns about what others are going to assume about us based on our posts. Thank you for encouraging us to continue to provide a supportive environment in which HOM families can seek advice and support without judgment or retribution. I understand that fakers do exist and that some people on this board have been hurt by them in the past - but your advice is very important; that suspected fakers should be reported to the moderators. Again, thank you.
Jessica
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Tasha
Tue Feb-27-07 10:11 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
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#259156, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
Jeff,
I respect that this is your board and you can pull any post you feel doesn't belong on TC. However, for the record I wanted to say that nobody was accused of being a fake in the thread in question. On the contrary, if read the thread it was stated many times they believed she did in fact have triplets.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
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jonib
Tue Feb-27-07 10:13 AM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
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#259158, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
To echo Tasha, what was being said mainly was if indeed we were her only support system with the overwhelming difficulties she faced on a daily basis,that she probably needed some additional assistance.
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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Grandma28
Tue Feb-27-07 10:26 AM
Member since Feb 03rd 2007
41 posts
#259164, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
Thanks Jeff! I was shocked when I read the first post. My heart ached for the mother. We all have crosses to bear, some more than others. Also, we must remember that we do not all handle things the same!!!!!!!!! That doesn't make one right and one wrong, it makes the world go around. If WE do not want to be judged ourselves, then we should NOT judge others! I come here as a source of hope, support and comfort to get through this trying time in our lives. Having triplets is surely one of the most trying things a person can go through. Especially healthy ones!! Not all are so lucky. It makes me afraid to post here re: how my DDIL is doing. How sad.
Barb
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Colette
Tue Feb-27-07 10:59 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
450 posts
#259181, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 4
I also agree with Tasha. I read the posts and no one questioned if she was real or fake. As a matter of fact many said that she did in fact have triplets. What does seem to be the case is that there are MANY of us who feel there is a potentially serious problem that needs to be addressed and maybe just sticking our heads in the sand and ingnoring it just isn't working anymore. It sure didn't work with the whole Mandie Clark situation...(and i'm not saying that she is a faker either). Maybe now that it's out in the open the moderators can look into this further.
Colette
AJ (6)
Dominick, Joseph & Rocco (2 1/2)
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ryanjs
Tue Feb-27-07 11:36 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
702 posts
#259197, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 5
Sorry to keep this going but I just have to say that it doesn't matter whether or not she was necessarily accused of being "fake" in the thread. It is the simple fact that people felt it was ok to "talk about" another person openly on the forum. It is one thing to send PMs to each other or even to notify the moderators about your concerns with this person but it another thing all together to call them out publicy and risk being wrong and worse inflicting further emotional pain on someone who is clearly struggling with many issues already in her life. I felt as though I was in high school again reading those posts and I just don't think it was appropriate. I will say again, as I and others have said, this kind of behavior deters people from feeling free and open to post their struggles without fear that others will "talk about them behind their back." That is not what this forum is about. Just my opinion.
Jessica
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fivenelli
Tue Feb-27-07 11:55 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
182 posts
#259207, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 6
I understand what you are saying, Jessica. But, as in the Mandie Clark situation, people on the board had no idea that others had also been reaching out to the current person privately and were being ignored. Think of all of the people that sent their money and used items to "Mandie" without ever really knowing that they were being taken advantage of. I'm not saying that the current person is taking advantage of anyone, but certainly that the situation with this person needs to be addressed.
I think it was Tulip who stated that she didn't want to stand by and see the children go unprotected, knowing that she should have said something sooner. If we truly want to help the parents on this board, allowing things to go on without saying anything (and I know that people had contacted the moderators - which didn't seem to change anything) was certainly not helping. There doesn't seem to be a solution that will make everyone happy and feel good about themselves. I hope at least that there is a solution that will help this family out of these dangerous situations.
Jeanne
Mommy to Frank, Grace & Sarah 1/18/02
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tulip
Tue Feb-27-07 03:59 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
5902 posts
#259315, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 7
Well yes, my concern is for the children. However, I am very saddened at how things went down. Anyone who is experiencing such desperate times as Amy would not be helped by what happened here. There is no way that publicly discussing the traumas in her life would encourage her to reach out to us.
Yes, forum participants deserve to be protected from scammers & fakers. Given the recent past and societal trends, I guess this kind of reality is going to be with us. I am glad that Mandie was outted. I wonder if we can somehow come up with a process to protect ourselves? Maybe it isn't possible? What I also wonder is how we can, as a community of triplet parents who I believe DO care for each other, help one of us if it appears something tragic is about to happen or already happening. But I don't know if it's our place to help unless help is asked for. And if help is asked for, then we have to find a way to ensure that help is needed, that we're not being scammed. But at the same time, what do we do when it's clear that something is very wrong, but we're not being asked for help? For the sake of the children, such as children who are being physically harmed (like at the daycare) or sexually abused & molested (as Amy described happened at home), aren't we bound to step in & DO SOMETHING?
I don't know. I just don't know. The reason I don't know is because this is an internet community. This isn't my neighborhood. If Amy was my neighbor I'd be there, in person. I'd know which agencies to contact for her to receive respite care & assistance. I'd know which law enforcement agencies to call. But since she is my internet neighbor, I am fairly powerless, other than prayer, of course.
Perhaps we can continue this discussion and find productive answers. I hope so. The internet has become our neighborhood, it's our friendship hall, our meeting place. We need to have a way to help our neighbors. For many of us with strong personal convictions, it's our duty to help. And we need to have a way to protect each other if we happen to discover that someone among us is a proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.
Obviously, what happened this weekend didn't work. Okay, lesson learned. Well, I hope it's learned. This has happened before. I hope it doesn't happen again. Let's figure out some other way to handle things. I think it would be helpful for our moderators to participate in this kind of discussion, because they're more aware of the legal considerations & restrictions than we are.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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foreveramom
Tue Feb-27-07 01:32 PM
Member since Jan 30th 2006
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#259249, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 5
You are SO right, Colette. Is everyone here supposed to be an enabler? Are we supposed to just "oh, I'm so sorry you're going through this for the 258th time this year" to a person who seems to crave the sympathy of others for crisis after crisis. It just feels wrong and takes up time from those issues that truly need to be addressed on this board. Newbies (those with just 35 or so posts) fall prey to those seemingly-manufactured crisis situations and then they comment on the injustice of it all when they have no background. Once again, not productive to this forum.
Lesa
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Jen.
Tue Feb-27-07 02:08 PM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
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#259262, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 9
I think enabling is the perfect word for what is happening here. Everyone thinks that as long as we are all "nice" then everything will be okay, the reality is that in some situations it will make things worse and in this case...much worse.
When things get swept under the rug (again) frustrations will only increase and eventually upstanding members of this community will leave. Maybe the disclaimer at the bottom should say something about not caring about the frustrations of the members and how everyone is just supposed to keep thier mouth shut??? Unless you have the 258th tragedy of the day that is....then feel free to speak up.
Jen
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jonib
Tue Feb-27-07 12:06 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
150 posts
#259211, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
It kind of goes with my question on another post. I understand this is a support forum, however when it appears that someone has such major crisis it is not unfair to question if they have additional support and/or resources to enable them to deal with these problems in addition to the virtual world we have here.
I guess I'll ask again here...is this board meant to be a "hang in there you are doing a great job mamma" at all times, or is it ok to raise a concern when there appears to be a serious problem?
If I know the rules I will comply...for people to get "hurt feelings" or feel "flamed" sounds crazy to me. This is the internet people...get some tough skin. If we can come on here as moms with different issues and have lively debate on topics we throw questions out about don't we all walk away with something??
We will not all agree on everything as previously stated, however, I can get "fake support" from people who don't understand having triplets...when I come here I want the real deal. See Tulips reply to my post re "Abby's at it again"...hurt feelings? no, honesty from another poster with good intentions and ideas for me to try.
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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CindyB
Tue Feb-27-07 02:35 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
300 posts
#259271, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
I don't post often, but I browse frequently since 2004 and I was even noticing an alarming trend in her posts.
Several months ago I recall her starting a post about her myspace page. I hit the link and was shocked by all the details she had about her kids. She had enough info for someone to track her down in 5 minutes and anyone would know enough about her life to easily convice her kids that they knew them. Now granted, I could just be a paranoid person, but I posted to her on her thread here that she might want to be careful about exposing so much on there as I now had all kinds of info about her as does anyone who goes to her page and she doesn't know if everyone has good intentions. She became all dramatic and said now she had a stalker because of what I said. I just rolled my eyes and haven't posted to her since.
Considering the content of her posts since then, she either needs to become more paranoid or less dramatic, I am not sure which, but I feel that her posts were escalating to a point were any true friend would need to have a heart to heart with her if all she posts about is true. I am not sure how mean the pulled posts became, but it seems fair to ask with compassion at some point. How many times in the news do we hear of stories were someone needs to step in, but no one ever did and everone says "Someone should have done something.". At what point do we have to ask the difficult questions or risk becoming silent bystanders to something that truly needed attention?
Cindy
Paul and Andrew
Kristen, Rachel and Michael
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madmolly
Tue Feb-27-07 03:15 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1195 posts
#259294, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 0
You are all correct that Amy was not labeled a faker in that pulled post. In fact, there was specific mention that she was not a faker. That is a moot point.
It would be a gross exaggeration to state that the original post, and those that followed, were intended to "support" Amy or aide in her difficulties. Seriously. Starting a post "Munchausen by internet" and then attacking Amy's grammar or spelling as it relates to her chosen career and calling her (at best) an exaggerator or (at worst) a liar is well beyond wanting to offer support. In fact, if she is truly unstable, then the demise of her "support" outlet could have catastrophic ramifications.
Playing armchair psychologist is inappropriate. Name-calling is inappropriate. Resulting in vigilante justice is inappropriate. The Mandie Clark fiasco was investigated then addressed by the moderators and a public announcement was made to ensure the integrity of the board and the protection of it's members. It is a stretch to correlate that situation with this witch-hunt regarding the validity of the outrageous stories contained in Amy’s posts.
I split the bitch between newbie and veteran. I have seen my share of drama on this board (as I am usually involved in it! LOL!). However, for the post (and the others related to it) to have been allowed to remain would have contributed to the demise of this support group as a whole. That's not to say that healthy debate is unacceptable. Although, the gang-up style of attack that occurred on one member is unacceptable. Right, wrong, or indifferent, the post should have been pulled. Kudos to Jeff and his team.
All that said, I didn't see a post from the moderators stating whether or not there is cause for concern about Amy's mental stability or her extremely complicated life. Now that we have completed this exercise (Thank you Tasha for having the guts to bring this concern to everyone's attention), is someone following up with her? Munchausen or not, liar or not, someone should check in on her to ensure that further damage was not done.
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
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bsebllmom9
Tue Feb-27-07 03:18 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1962 posts
#259296, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 12
Well let's hope Lauren is doing that for us all...
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
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tulip
Tue Feb-27-07 04:04 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
5902 posts
#259317, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 12
"All that said, I didn't see a post from the moderators stating whether or not there is cause for concern about Amy's mental stability or her extremely complicated life. Now that we have completed this exercise (Thank you Tasha for having the guts to bring this concern to everyone's attention), is someone following up with her? Munchausen or not, liar or not, someone should check in on her to ensure that further damage was not done. "
AMEN TO THAT! Please, can we check on her? Is she okay? Are her children okay?
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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boomom
Tue Feb-27-07 04:38 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1300 posts
#259338, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 15
>
>AMEN TO THAT! Please, can we check on her? Is she okay? Are
>her children okay?
Tulip,
That is my concern with this whole mess. Because TC is a support organization for expecting parents and for parents with HOM's is there any way that her welfare can be inquired upon?
Gina
G 12yo
BGG(Down Syndrome)9yo
"You will know sorrow like few others and yet you will know joy above joy. You will meet dirty faced angels on playgrounds who are kind to your child without being told to be." Susan F. Rzucidlo
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Zaz
Tue Feb-27-07 04:33 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
719 posts
#259337, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 12
Wait a minute. I am little confused. Are you changing your tune, Lea? If I remember correctly, I believe you were part of the stand up comedy routine of purposely misspelling words in several posts to mock Amy and garner a few laughs.
Now, you're giving kudos to Jeff and his team for pulling the inappropriate posts in which you were involved?
Is this post your apology for being part of the gang who posted the gang-up style of attacks?
Lisa
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madmolly
Tue Feb-27-07 04:55 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1195 posts
#259352, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 16
I actually posted that I thought the girls were just being mean and picking on her. Then I posted if drama was the concern, I could match her drama with my posts. I even stated that I should be labeled right along with her as many of my posts are also vents. (Granted not about abusive daycares, mystery illnesses, and child molestation, but still..I have my drama!) Additionally, I said that it had turned into the mob mentality and was no long an intervention as it appeared was intended by the original poster.
LOL! I did joke around in an effort to lighten the mood of the thread, as is my way. However, I did not poke fun at Amy. I was making fun of Jen, who made a personal attack on grammar and spelling. Aparently, that was lost on you.
I have not changed my tune and I make no apologies.
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
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Grandma28
Tue Feb-27-07 04:59 PM
Member since Feb 03rd 2007
41 posts
#259356, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 16
Not sure where I should respond here, but a quick note, Amy emailed me this morning after I posted a thank you for pulling the post. She thanked me for the post, and is very hurt. I know I am NEW here and don't know what many of you do. But, I do have much life experience. And, we all know we don't want to feel as if we're being attacked.
Amy still reads these threads, why not reach out to her yourselves? Whether you live where she lives or not, you can offer support in many ways.
As triplet moms you all have huge hearts, open them in the right way.
If you don't want to be involved so be it. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Grandma Barb
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bsebllmom9
Tue Feb-27-07 05:04 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1962 posts
#259360, "RE: Forum Suspicions"
In response to Reply # 19
Lesa tried that and she was attacked for it....
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/
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#258557, "RE: NTR:Just curious..."
In response to Reply # 5
Ok so POINT WELL TAKEN..... My heart is broken and if I was not numb before I am at this point.
If you all WANT ALL my information then instead of being MEAN and HURTFUL then ask... IF you would of you would be aware that EVERYTHING that has happened in the past few months is REAL.. VERY REAL.... CPS would NOT offer any services to my kids because I AM A GREAT PARENT, and I removed them from the situation. Trying being angry about this they DID NOTHING the daycare is still in OPERATION.... NICE......
It is NOT against the law to live by yourself, and I do a great job at it.. DO I HAVE A CHOICE?.....NO I started counceling a week ago.... Because I could NOT understand why all of the things in my life seems to never fall into order. I guess I am someone who expects my life to be perfect or longs for it to be. So when the bad happens it is just harder for me to deal with because I don't think it should. I mean does everyones life lack issues?
I want a better life for my kids so I work my REAR OFF.
I blame myself for everything absolutely everything, even the things I have NO control over. I am a perfectionist... This is the one true place I thought I could vent or ask for support and I thought people had the same issues....or could at least relate to crabby toddlers, sick kids, Dh that work all the time...ect the list goes on
I guess I am guilty for not posting the GOOD stuff but lately the good stuff is far and few.... Funny you stated that the bad venting posts started in 2004 I have been online since 2002... And yes I imagine they did this is the year my husband had to move us, we had to sell our house that we had just put our last 3,000 into, and move to a town in the middle of NOWHERE... No support, 3 babies at the age of 1, no husband home... IT was the hardest and scariest time of my life..and truely the sadest.. Plus Dh found out he gets laid off 4 months out of 12.. His salary SUCKS..... And in one year I have to go back to this community. But I will concour because the trio will HOPEFULLY be out of therapy, and I can work and do what I have always dreamed of doing, and support the family.... Dh can have some releif from having to work such bad hours, we can truely be a family again.... or at least rebuild what his job took away in 2004.
The main reason I moved here... We thought Dh would be moved, we truely did that is why I went back to school plus I needed support and here I have that... I guess maybe NOT enough..... Our life has been hard for the past 2 years, I have been truely miserable with our circumstances... I miss DH, I miss our BIG house, I miss the life we started to have in 2003. But I can't change anything I can only try to move on. I am doing this, with some professional help intended of course... SO since you ALL think you know everything Thanks for making me feel like a BIG LOSER... IT WORKED.... Guess I did NOT feel comforable telling EVERYONE I WAS SEEING SOMEONE.......
So for your information, I am already working on the stresses of my life. I am searching away to deal with the hurts of the past, the decisions I have made that have affected our current outcome and situations.
I guess you don't have to worry any further because everyone in my life Doctors, COuncelors, Pastors, family ect are well aware of my issues as I am not a person to hold things inside. I just thought by coming to the TC I could get a diffrent out look a triplet mom out look maybe someone who could say GEEZ I have been their, or I understand I HAVE TRIPLETS. Many of you have done this.. Sorry mine was to excessive... I am truely sorry I don't post much positive I guess I have taking most of my time dealing with myself...and neglected answering the potty questions, feeding question and nicu questions.....
I will not be posting. SO yes Jen and who every else you can be excited about that no more bad spelling. I will reserve my vents and crying for my psychologist. To bad she does not have triplets....
Yes I have support systems, I have a church that never calls, I lost my best friend over the Mandie incident she was our childrens pastors wife. I communicated with Mandy for Her to adopt her Twins. She trusted me and I broker her heart. She sent her MONEY and never got it back... ANd you think I am a fake? I have a doctors who keeps my children in therapy, constantly worries about their developmental delays. Which are all Documented as we are BACK in theraphy UGH... 2 times a week starting tomorrow. I hate this I hate the appoinments, I do it because I LOVE THEM.. The reasons for the delays has been determine due to preemie issue so IS THIS MY FAULT? SURE FEELS LIKE IT... But my psychologist is angry because I feel responsible, Well if you refused MAG woundn't you feel responsible? I could of taken it I could of kept them in longer, their delays are for MY DECisions even the decisions to HAVE THEM...
I have a husband who works 40 plus hours a week and is stuck in a 6 year federal contract, he can't leave his job because we need the federal bcbs to pay our doctor bills for therapy...
I am going to school because I am a DARN good nurse and my instructs BELIEVE IN ME... They have been with me every step of my pregnancy, they encourage me they UNDERSTAND when the world gets tough I MEAN HELLO I HAVE TRIPLETS.. They do not set the standards lower for me somedays I think they are HARDER... they understand that to do what I do I have to be very organized, dedicated, smart, and determined. I have been in this program since 2001 a LONG TIME...PS they LOVE SPELL AND GRAMMER CHECK... Maybe Jeff should install it on the forum MIGHT HELP... I guess I could cut and past from WORD.. TO MUCH TIME I HAVE TRIPLETS.
The People i care for complement me daily because I always go the extra mile to ensure I do my best.....I leave my family issues at the door....Dh and I don't feel our family life belongs in our careers.
I guess this is my downfall I just want the best for ALL... Even my self and my family....
YES I MADE THE DECISION TO be here, so SUCK IT UP AND SHUT UP I GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The light is getting brighter and hopefully my psychologist can help me see it a little brighter. She did tell me last week that I need to STOP blaming my self for all the stuff that happens, like the daycare, ect.. This is stuff I can't control.... I am doing this to make it better, even though at this point it seems far off...... Wish I could conveince myself of the same
SO here I am on the one place I thought I could gain some support and am being shot to HELL...
Oh well live and learn......at least you will make my session important on Friday.
Anything else you would like!!!!
Amy
Sun Feb-25-07 02:07 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1072 posts
#258557, "RE: NTR:Just curious..."
In response to Reply # 5
Ok so POINT WELL TAKEN..... My heart is broken and if I was not numb before I am at this point.
If you all WANT ALL my information then instead of being MEAN and HURTFUL then ask... IF you would of you would be aware that EVERYTHING that has happened in the past few months is REAL.. VERY REAL.... CPS would NOT offer any services to my kids because I AM A GREAT PARENT, and I removed them from the situation. Trying being angry about this they DID NOTHING the daycare is still in OPERATION.... NICE......
It is NOT against the law to live by yourself, and I do a great job at it.. DO I HAVE A CHOICE?.....NO I started counceling a week ago.... Because I could NOT understand why all of the things in my life seems to never fall into order. I guess I am someone who expects my life to be perfect or longs for it to be. So when the bad happens it is just harder for me to deal with because I don't think it should. I mean does everyones life lack issues?
I want a better life for my kids so I work my REAR OFF.
I blame myself for everything absolutely everything, even the things I have NO control over. I am a perfectionist... This is the one true place I thought I could vent or ask for support and I thought people had the same issues....or could at least relate to crabby toddlers, sick kids, Dh that work all the time...ect the list goes on
I guess I am guilty for not posting the GOOD stuff but lately the good stuff is far and few.... Funny you stated that the bad venting posts started in 2004 I have been online since 2002... And yes I imagine they did this is the year my husband had to move us, we had to sell our house that we had just put our last 3,000 into, and move to a town in the middle of NOWHERE... No support, 3 babies at the age of 1, no husband home... IT was the hardest and scariest time of my life..and truely the sadest.. Plus Dh found out he gets laid off 4 months out of 12.. His salary SUCKS..... And in one year I have to go back to this community. But I will concour because the trio will HOPEFULLY be out of therapy, and I can work and do what I have always dreamed of doing, and support the family.... Dh can have some releif from having to work such bad hours, we can truely be a family again.... or at least rebuild what his job took away in 2004.
The main reason I moved here... We thought Dh would be moved, we truely did that is why I went back to school plus I needed support and here I have that... I guess maybe NOT enough..... Our life has been hard for the past 2 years, I have been truely miserable with our circumstances... I miss DH, I miss our BIG house, I miss the life we started to have in 2003. But I can't change anything I can only try to move on. I am doing this, with some professional help intended of course... SO since you ALL think you know everything Thanks for making me feel like a BIG LOSER... IT WORKED.... Guess I did NOT feel comforable telling EVERYONE I WAS SEEING SOMEONE.......
So for your information, I am already working on the stresses of my life. I am searching away to deal with the hurts of the past, the decisions I have made that have affected our current outcome and situations.
I guess you don't have to worry any further because everyone in my life Doctors, COuncelors, Pastors, family ect are well aware of my issues as I am not a person to hold things inside. I just thought by coming to the TC I could get a diffrent out look a triplet mom out look maybe someone who could say GEEZ I have been their, or I understand I HAVE TRIPLETS. Many of you have done this.. Sorry mine was to excessive... I am truely sorry I don't post much positive I guess I have taking most of my time dealing with myself...and neglected answering the potty questions, feeding question and nicu questions.....
I will not be posting. SO yes Jen and who every else you can be excited about that no more bad spelling. I will reserve my vents and crying for my psychologist. To bad she does not have triplets....
Yes I have support systems, I have a church that never calls, I lost my best friend over the Mandie incident she was our childrens pastors wife. I communicated with Mandy for Her to adopt her Twins. She trusted me and I broker her heart. She sent her MONEY and never got it back... ANd you think I am a fake? I have a doctors who keeps my children in therapy, constantly worries about their developmental delays. Which are all Documented as we are BACK in theraphy UGH... 2 times a week starting tomorrow. I hate this I hate the appoinments, I do it because I LOVE THEM.. The reasons for the delays has been determine due to preemie issue so IS THIS MY FAULT? SURE FEELS LIKE IT... But my psychologist is angry because I feel responsible, Well if you refused MAG woundn't you feel responsible? I could of taken it I could of kept them in longer, their delays are for MY DECisions even the decisions to HAVE THEM...
I have a husband who works 40 plus hours a week and is stuck in a 6 year federal contract, he can't leave his job because we need the federal bcbs to pay our doctor bills for therapy...
I am going to school because I am a DARN good nurse and my instructs BELIEVE IN ME... They have been with me every step of my pregnancy, they encourage me they UNDERSTAND when the world gets tough I MEAN HELLO I HAVE TRIPLETS.. They do not set the standards lower for me somedays I think they are HARDER... they understand that to do what I do I have to be very organized, dedicated, smart, and determined. I have been in this program since 2001 a LONG TIME...PS they LOVE SPELL AND GRAMMER CHECK... Maybe Jeff should install it on the forum MIGHT HELP... I guess I could cut and past from WORD.. TO MUCH TIME I HAVE TRIPLETS.
The People i care for complement me daily because I always go the extra mile to ensure I do my best.....I leave my family issues at the door....Dh and I don't feel our family life belongs in our careers.
I guess this is my downfall I just want the best for ALL... Even my self and my family....
YES I MADE THE DECISION TO be here, so SUCK IT UP AND SHUT UP I GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The light is getting brighter and hopefully my psychologist can help me see it a little brighter. She did tell me last week that I need to STOP blaming my self for all the stuff that happens, like the daycare, ect.. This is stuff I can't control.... I am doing this to make it better, even though at this point it seems far off...... Wish I could conveince myself of the same
SO here I am on the one place I thought I could gain some support and am being shot to HELL...
Oh well live and learn......at least you will make my session important on Friday.
Anything else you would like!!!!
Amy
Feb 25 2007 Message to MOT
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foreveramom
Sun Feb-25-07 02:31 PM
Member since Jan 30th 2006
622 posts
#258440, "Message to MomofTreasures"
Hi. By now, I know you've probably seen the thread pertaining to your situations.
I have to say, I've been cringing every time I come to TC and see on the forum that you've posted YET another drama. I felt guilty not replying, because if you were truly mixed up in all of those awful situations, then you needed all the support you could get.
Eventually, I just viewed your posts the way someone views a train wreck as a spectator - looking, but not wanting to look all the same.
Finally, I just saw that the posts were by you and just passed them by altogether.
If you truly are drowning in all of the drama you relay, then PLEASE get help. See a counselor.
Some people manufacture drama, exaggerate drama, or just relay drama as a cry for help.
I think that this is the case.
My heart goes out to you. I hope you find peace in your life and in your heart. I hope your kids get the help they need and that they have a healthy mama to lead the way.
Lesa
Mom to: Kristi - 20, USAF, wife & mom **Kevin - 18, a Chemical Engineering Honor Student at USF **Kelli - 16, Principal's Honor Roll student **Angus - 4, beautiful redhead **Ruca, Nadia, Max - 2, GGB triplets www.angusandthetriplets.com
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foreveramom
Sun Feb-25-07 02:31 PM
Member since Jan 30th 2006
622 posts
#258440, "Message to MomofTreasures"
Hi. By now, I know you've probably seen the thread pertaining to your situations.
I have to say, I've been cringing every time I come to TC and see on the forum that you've posted YET another drama. I felt guilty not replying, because if you were truly mixed up in all of those awful situations, then you needed all the support you could get.
Eventually, I just viewed your posts the way someone views a train wreck as a spectator - looking, but not wanting to look all the same.
Finally, I just saw that the posts were by you and just passed them by altogether.
If you truly are drowning in all of the drama you relay, then PLEASE get help. See a counselor.
Some people manufacture drama, exaggerate drama, or just relay drama as a cry for help.
I think that this is the case.
My heart goes out to you. I hope you find peace in your life and in your heart. I hope your kids get the help they need and that they have a healthy mama to lead the way.
Lesa
Mom to: Kristi - 20, USAF, wife & mom **Kevin - 18, a Chemical Engineering Honor Student at USF **Kelli - 16, Principal's Honor Roll student **Angus - 4, beautiful redhead **Ruca, Nadia, Max - 2, GGB triplets www.angusandthetriplets.com
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Feb 24 2007 MOT Munchhausen by Internet???
(I know it seems like I posted a lot of MOT threads. But that is only a tiny fraction of the dramas in her life. I could make a blog just about her. She got very few replies to any of her posts toward the end and posted several dramas a day. This is where it finally came to a head.)
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Tasha
Sat Feb-24-07 11:36 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258377, "Munchausen by Internet???"
Is it ever Ok to call someone out? For those that don’t know Munchausen by Internet is a term given to people who make up illness, abuse and dramatic stories for attention on internet support groups. We have had our fair share of made up stories here so I am asking here. If you suspect someone with their increasingly more dramatic stories that just don’t seem to add up when or do you call them out? Or should you? Doing reading on the subject the ‘experts’ say confronting is the best for the long term good of the group. Though it usually does cause hurt feelings and anger in the short term. So if ignoring is only causing more frequent dramas would you ever agree with calling someone out?
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
to order a 2007 Multiples Calendar
www.bluegrasstwinsclub.org
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RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Lori_Ann, Feb 24th 2007, #1
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #2
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, foreveramom, Feb 25th 2007, #3
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #5
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, tripletots98, Feb 25th 2007, #7
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Tasha, Feb 25th 2007, #8
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, tripletots98, Feb 25th 2007, #9
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #10
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Tasha, Feb 25th 2007, #11
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, tripletots98, Feb 25th 2007, #4
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #6
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Suzan33, Feb 25th 2007, #12
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, julie123, Feb 25th 2007, #15
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, tripplefun, Feb 25th 2007, #16
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, kunster, Feb 25th 2007, #13
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RE: Munchausen by Internet???, tripletots98, Feb 25th 2007, #18
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, angeliagg, Feb 25th 2007, #17
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Suzan33, Feb 25th 2007, #19
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Jan77, Feb 25th 2007, #20
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RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Sunshinebabies3, Feb 25th 2007, #24
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RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Jan77, Feb 25th 2007, #33
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Lori_Ann
Sat Feb-24-07 11:40 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
500 posts
#258378, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I had been wondering the same thing recently. I will be curious to see what others say.
Lori
Mommy to ggg born at 29 weeks, 5 days on 1-30-01
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:11 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258385, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Tasha,
Let's call them out and then decide!!!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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foreveramom
Sun Feb-25-07 12:17 AM
Member since Jan 30th 2006
622 posts
#258386, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 2
I think it's about time. My mind's been drawn to wonder.
Lesa
Mom to: Kristi - 20, USAF, wife & mom **Kevin - 18, a Chemical Engineering Honor Student at USF **Kelli - 16, Principal's Honor Roll student **Angus - 4, beautiful redhead **Ruca, Nadia, Max - 2, GGB triplets www.angusandthetriplets.com
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:26 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258389, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 3
Are we all thinking of the same person? This is like a mystery novel! Can you guys tell I've been alone with the kids for 8 days? I'm hoping you or someone (or me) creates drama just to entertain me!
Okay so let's do hints and clues. Does the first letter have two humps like the Golden Arches? I'm I cold or warm?
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:33 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258391, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 5
ROFLMAO....You're good
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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Tasha
Sun Feb-25-07 12:38 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258393, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 5
CYE.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
to order a 2007 Multiples Calendar
www.bluegrasstwinsclub.org
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:41 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258394, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 8
???...CYE???
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:41 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258395, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 8
Sun Feb-25-07 12:43 AM by MSTAR
Does CYE mean momtotreasures because I'm tired and need to go to bed. Or is there someone else on here with even more dramatic and farfetched stories on a daily basis?
Shall we do an intervention? By internet??? LOL!!!!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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Tasha
Sun Feb-25-07 12:42 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258396, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 10
CYE is see your email. But yeah we are on the same track.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
to order a 2007 Multiples Calendar
www.bluegrasstwinsclub.org
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:25 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258388, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
**Brilliant** It doesn't take much for us 'TC Old Timers' to spot the red flags! You're right on target Tasha! I hope help is available...
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:31 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258390, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Okay screw it. I can't stand the suspense and it's only been two minutes. Are we talking about momtotreasures?
(Here goes the drama!)
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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Suzan33
Sun Feb-25-07 01:09 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
675 posts
#258399, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Are her posts gone already? I can't seem to find anyone by that name. I LOVE drama!!!!
Suzan
g/g/b August 21, 2005
my miracle 24 weekers!!!!
http://lilypie.com>
http://lilypie.com>
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julie123
Sun Feb-25-07 01:18 AM
Member since Jun 13th 2006
418 posts
#258403, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 12
It's momoftreastures, there's a post from her about 3/4 of the way down this main page.
My mom and I have often wondered the same thing, bantering back and fourth about the rediculious and quite farfetched stories.
The thing is, what do we do now? Does she really have triplets? Is she really this unfortunate to have all these problems? (I know I have weeks where it seems like something goes wrong on a daily basis) or is it all made up. Do we help, or ask it to stop? Do the moderators have input in the outcome?
I know I personally don't appreciate the drama, I feel like it takes away from some really serious issues/questions that are urgently posted. However, I know I do use this site to vent, as do many others, and I don't think that should change.
I've wanted to call her on it before, but not sure what the point would be. I mean, are we asking her to prove herself, to prove her stories. Or are we asking her to stop posting about all these negative things EVERY DAY?
Julie wife to Mark and mom to
Tristan Declan 4lbs 3oz
Cassandra Madison 4lbs 7oz
Ryland Markus 4lbs 2oz
Born on 9/5/06 at 32 weeks 4 days
www.cysticfibrosismaleinfertility.com
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:25 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258404, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 15
She does have triplets, at least she has posted pics of them.
If I had that much drama, negative at that Id be locked up by now, in a straight jacket that is.
I do not think she is fake. She posts about every single thing that goes on at her house, there simply is not enough time in one day to post every single problem in a day and take care of kids with a husband in another state, study for full time classes, not to mention cooking, cleaning, spending time with the kids.
However that is just my lil ole opinion.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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kunster
Sun Feb-25-07 01:17 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
371 posts
#258401, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
WORD Tasha! I just hope that most people here are smart enough to remember that this is the internet....you can be who you want to be and have the life that you want to have. If you want attention, you can get it!! The only way to stop it is to ignore it.
Laura M. - Chicagoland
mommy to miracles
Hannah, Sarah and Emma
4/21/00 --- 28w5d
"Many children, many cares; no children, no felicity." -Christian Nevell
Bovee
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:17 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258402, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Yes!!! Im not crazy!
whew
Just never knew there was an actual name for it.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 01:36 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258407, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 14
It is sad to add more 'drama' to a TC member then they obviously already have. But, I think the problems run much deeper for this (these) members. I hope they have some 'real-life' friends that can offer the help & support they need. Maybe then, using TC as an outlet for EVERYTHING else will cease & we can get back some of the more important things...like, oh I don't know say...getting through a HIGH RISK pregnancy or having fragile preemies in the NICU, dealing with developmental delays, potty training or just plain ole surviving 24 hours as a HOM parent!
Just my view on the topic...while the thread is still alive, lol!
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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angeliagg
Sun Feb-25-07 01:32 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
631 posts
#258406, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I'm glad someone has mentioned this because the neverending supply of CRAZY, drama-filled stuff just bugs me. I'm just glad I'm not the only one feeling the same way.
GBB born Dec 27, 2005 at 31w4d
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Suzan33
Sun Feb-25-07 01:50 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
675 posts
#258409, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 17
OK. On an earlier post someone wrote "momtotreasures" not "momoftreasures". That one I could find but not the first one. I think I just figured she was someone with A LOT of bad luck!!!
Suzan
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Jan77
Sun Feb-25-07 03:06 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
244 posts
#258413, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
If you are concerned about a possible faker on this site, you should contact TiffanyRay. She is really good with the detective work. It would be a shame to call someone out publicly and then be wrong.
Jana
GBG Born August 5, 2005
31 Weeks
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Jen.
Sun Feb-25-07 09:14 AM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
107 posts
#258426, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 20
For what it's worth...There are several people that have been talking with TiffaniRay about this for a few weeks now, she is fully aware of the situation and has been looking into it. She was given the heads up about this post before it was made and did not object to it.
Jen
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Jen.
Sun Feb-25-07 09:03 AM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
107 posts
#258425, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Oh Tasha...have I mentioned how much I *heart* you? You get the courage badge today my friend.
I think not only were we all thinking it, but we all knew that everyone else was thinking it too. It just took someone with the guts to finally say it publicly.
Here's my take...I think she is real. I think she really has triplets, I think her husband really works away from home and, unfortunately, I think she really is in nursing school. (As a nursing student myself it frightens me that someone who cannot complete a single sentence without spelling and grammar errors, and uses UGH with all the frequency of punctuation could be in charge of patient’s lives)
If she were a fake TiffaniRay and Kunster would have outted her by now. She has posted pictures of herself and her children, she hasn't been short on details about her name (first and last) her location and other details that fakers are usually reluctant to give.
We aren't dealing with a faker here, we are dealing with exactly what Tasha said...Munchausen by Internet. In other words...a person with a real life that manufactures or exaggerates tragedies and enjoys the attention she receives from all of the drama. It’s interesting to note that most people have been ignoring her for a long time now. It’s also interesting to note that she seems oblivious to those social cues and keeps on posting with the same and even increasing frequency. She is posting for sympathy, unfortunately she doesn’t seem to realize that the more she has posted the less sympathy she gets. As a member of an online community you have to learn to “pick your dramas”…kwim?
Is anyone else surprised at how long this thread has been up without getting anyone flamed???? That's a TC first!
Jen
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Sunshinebabies3
Sun Feb-25-07 09:28 AM
Member since Jan 28th 2006
571 posts
#258430, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 21
interesting. Honestly. I never noticed, but now you have my attention.
I think the stuff you are describing is a lot like the person you meet in an elevator who suddenly tells you that they are fat b/c their husband ran off with a 20 year old hussy while she (woman in elevator) was in labor with their 8th child. Some people as pp mentioned just dont get social cues that say TOO MUCH INFORMATION!
Asomeone else mentioned, there is a payoff for these people somehow and maybe it is the attention/sympathy. But I think those people are sad. There is clearly something wrong. I think ignoring is better than outting a person who is clearly emotionally unstable from the start. IF the posts drain you, then don't read them.
As for the nursing student with poor grammar...I think that was a low blow. My best friend grew up in Big Rock TN (seriously) and was always talking like a HICK & mixing up her cliches, but she graduted valedictorian and ended up is a L & D nurse in Phoenix at Good Sam. She works with the Big Dogs that deliver multiples. I assure you, she is great at what she does. They wouldn't use her if she weren't. My point is, while poor grammar may be an annoyance, it doesn't necessarily indicate intelligence or competance.
If TC intends to call people out on overdramatizing, I hope we can be kind enough to offer some suggested materials for support rather than offering character assasination & embarassment for people who clearly have problems to begin with. I understand the point of this thread, and agree with the intentions. I just have to admit that it makes me feel like I'm back in Middle school and the popular girls have just picked a new target for the week. Let's not do that.
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www.cutietooties.com
YES! You can cloth diaper TRIPLETS!
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Jen.
Sun Feb-25-07 10:04 AM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
107 posts
#258444, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 24
I definitely see your point about being cautious and I think generally speaking TC tends to give the benefit of the doubt. But what some may not realize is that this person has been around not for weeks or months - but several years. At some point it has to be called to light. There are those that catch on and begin to ignore it, but as you know there are new people joining every day that get sucked into the drama because they aren't aware of the problem. Ignore it if you choose, but there are those that would rather find a resolution for the sake of long term peace.
I am sorry you were offended about my comments about someone in the nursing profession but I have to stand by them. Having a particular accent or mixing up cliches doesn't mean your friend is a poor communicator. Generally speaking poor grammar and spelling generally does correlate with intelligence. I am aware that we are all a little relaxed about our typing in online communities...but when I have to read something repeatedly and STILL don't know what the person is saying, well, like I said before, it's a little frightening. Spelling and clear communication is SO important in any healthcare setting.
Jen
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Sunshinebabies3
Sun Feb-25-07 10:56 AM
Member since Jan 28th 2006
571 posts
#258456, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 26
Jen,
Hey. I wasnt offended by the grammar thing. We just disagree.
I understand that this drama has gone on for a long time and it is unfortunate. We agree about that. We just disagree about how to handle it.
No hard feelings or anything. Just offering a different opinion.
Owner:Cutie Tooties Cloth Diapers
www.cutietooties.com
YES! You can cloth diaper TRIPLETS!
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Jan77
Sun Feb-25-07 11:38 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
244 posts
#258462, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 24
I completely agree. Definitely feels like middle school. If she is legit and has triplets than she deserves to come to this board to vent just like the rest of us. If it bothers anyone then they should ignore her posts. If she is coming here for sympathy, what a better place to come. Honestly I see a lot of posts where people just need some sympathy and I don't have a problem with it.
Jana
GBG Born August 5, 2005
31 Weeks
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Tasha
Sun Feb-25-07 12:43 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258489, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 21
Jen thank you. As I have said before I don’t think she is a “faker” in that she is faking having triplets. I do think she needs some help. But as you said since she does have triplets that would tie Tiffani’s hands. I know several people have emailed her with concerns about this woman but there isn’t much she can do. Though she didn’t know I was going to be posting this post. I was just checking the temperature of the board.
But since I am not the only one and it came out quickly I will share why I posted my question. I am some fears now that the dramas are revolving more and more around abuse. I spent less than an hour searching her posts from the last 6-7 months. I just did a random sampling of posts started by her. The number of dramas were unreal. Some of them may very well be true, but if all of them are true then some serious life review is in order. Patterns started to emerge in that things were happening in such frequency to her and those around her you could give them subcategories. Abuse (family and friends), medical malpractice/lab errors/incompetent doctors, pregnancy scares because of the inability to correctly use a HPT correctly, job scares, housing, people out to get us because we have triplets, and Illness. Then the illness you could subcategories. There are a significant number of times when it is “touch and go” or “they are mentioning things like RARE cancer” then the next day things are all better.
I normally agree that ignoring is the best things to do, and I have done that for the years she has been here. But now all 4 of her kids have been abused by schools and daycare. Her triplets were abused by their preschool then on the first day at the new day care then her daughter molested. All in the span of a few weeks. But she deleted the molestation post (which was posted the same day as another TC member posting about a family member being molested) and seemed more upset that her husbands company was treating a family with “natural” triplets better than her. Which got several long winded upset posts during all this other drama. I’m sorry if my kids were suffering that much I wouldn’t have the mental capacity to care that another family was getting more stuff than I got when my kids were born.
I know I am coming across as cold and heartless now. Bit after reading doing a search and reading through drama after drama after drama (which are not just sick kids and being home alone with them) I am emotional drained. So I will accept being called cold an heartless now. I just wanted say I did not ask my questions because she was sick again. It goes much much deeper and took a lot for me to say something.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
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tulip
Sun Feb-25-07 01:33 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
5882 posts
#258510, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 45
Because I noted the same trend as you, I performed a similar search of our archives as you, only I went back a couple of years. I did this quite a while ago, and yes, the trend is alarming in it's progression from "simple" complications of life (housing problems, moving from state to state) to truly frightening instances of child abuse. That is what concerns me, that the progression has moved into the realm of child abuse. It also truly frightens me that someone with so many problems of these extremes is getting close to being allowed to work in the healthcare industry.
I wish that we could, as a community of caring triplet moms, reach out to "one of us", so to speak, and find a way to compassionately help Amy. If these things are actually happening, if her life is truly that much out of control, if her children are actually in as much day to day danger as she makes out, then surely there is some way for her to receive assistance of some kind. Could be through a church, or a MOMS group, or perhaps some kind of state or federal respite program.
If this is a simple case of MBI, I pray that Amy can find help before it progressions to MBP. I pray, I really do, that her children are not truly being harmed & molested the way she describes. And if they are, then I pray that Amy gets help for her family. If there were only some way for us to reach out to her and help her get help, before it's too late. If all Amy tells us is true, she is a desperate woman in a desperate, no-win situation. As fellow women & mothers, we should not turn our backs on her. We have the collective power to help her, don't we? If all she tells us is true, or if even 90% of it is true, and we shun her, and then one of her children is kidnapped or dies (which seem to be the only things left to happen) because she's too ashamed or proud to ask for help... Well, I know that I would not be able to sleep easy for a very long time.
If all or part of what Amy says is true, then it's clear she's been living in terrible conditions for so long she is numb to it. She doesn't see her situation clearly anymore. She needs help. Maybe she needs our help.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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jostach
Sun Feb-25-07 09:18 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
928 posts
#258427, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
THANK YOU, I have suspected for a long time, but since I feel I am not in the click here, was afraid to say something.
Jennifer
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 12:54 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258493, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 23
LOL @ the "click" thing. Im glad im not the only one who feels that way. It is so wierd that the clicks are here on the main board but we don't have that problem on the vets board. I have never been in the click or part of the TC police however that has never stopped me from posting.
Post away Jennifer, do not be afraid to post about anything, that is what this place is for, regardless how you feel.
However I do have to say that even though I still feel the clicks are here, it has gotten better. I try to reply to the new mom posts but that was 7 years ago and alot of the first year is one big blur.
Some members here have very strong opinions which is fine, actually I am one of them, some people do not like that and shy away from posting but like others have said it is hard sometimes to write a post with words to make it understandable and not harsh or rude.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:57 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258494, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 49
Hey Sandy...you know you're my "CLick Mate", lol!!!!
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:03 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258527, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 50
check mate!!!!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 09:43 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258436, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I don't think she's fake. I think she's 100 percent real. I think she could have Munchuasen By Proxy in REAL LIFE! It's actually scary that her DH is gone all the time. It's also quite disturbing to me that a person who makes up medical problems for attention is in nursing school. I just can't believe that all the Gods have conspired against this one person to create every imaginable injustice. If she doesn't have MBH, then she has the "victim syndrome". It's all very sad. I've thought it was sad for over a year.
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 01:00 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258497, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 25
I have to agree with you Michele. It is very sad and I feel like I've been sitting back watching it unfold for a looong time now! Someone needs to intervene for the sake of this family.
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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bsebllmom9
Sun Feb-25-07 10:19 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1940 posts
#258448, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Glad I'm not the only one that has been thinking this for a looooong time...Even had a private discussion about this with someone else, wondering the same thing...
I hope she gets the help, but I think if she sees this thread, she may never return here...
Hopefully TC moderators or whoever can get in contact with her in real life and if they know enough information about her or her husband, can get some real life help for her and her kids...ultimately they will be the one to suffer in all this...
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
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kylamel
Sun Feb-25-07 11:18 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1424 posts
#258459, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 27
I recall discussing this w/a member here. Everyone wants to be "politically correct" because, heck, this is the internet and we dont really "know" these people.
There are SEVERAL posters who constantly have drama, drama, drama going on and it is so outrageous sometimes that I just tune them out or dont even look posts started by them. I know that some drama is legit, but several of us can spot the "attention seekers" right away.
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fivenelli
Sun Feb-25-07 10:29 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
179 posts
#258451, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Thank you, Tasha! It has been driving me crazy for a while now. While I am sorry for the circumstances that have driven this person to the state she is in, it pains me to see her prey on the good nature of the people on this board.
I hope that she can get some help and stop distracting from other issues on the board.
Jeanne
Mommy to Frank, Grace & Sarah 1/18/02
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albentrip
Sun Feb-25-07 11:21 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
209 posts
#258460, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Sun Feb-25-07 11:22 AM by albentrip
I've always given her the benefit of the doubt when I've read her posts. I think she's real but has other problems than the ones she writes about. I just hope she gets whatever kind of help she needs.
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 11:33 AM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258461, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Okay, okay...enough! Good grief! Now, it's just mob mentality taking out the weakest link. Maybe I am just the root-for-the-under-dog kinda person, but we've gone way beyond intervention and now it's just plain mean.
I have my days that are awful, where nothing seems to go right. Let me see if I can match her drama with my own:
My whole house just got over the stomach flu which I managed on my own as DH was traveling to GA for the week. And I did it with a broken arm in a cast that goes up to my elbow. And my son was just perscribed a mediacation for his asthma that doesn't have a generic form and it's costing me an arm and a leg without healh insurance. And my husband maybe relocating in June. And I am fighting a battle with my ex husband over the spring break visitation with my older children. And I just had the triplets b-day party (a month late) where I found out that my BIL got back together with a woman (and I use that term loosely) whom I hate and he doesn't care what the rest of us think. AND...okay, that's all my current drama.
So, do I get to join the ranks of Munchausen by Internet? I got drama. I come here to vent some of it, cause I hope someone else will understand. Okay, I am ready for my label!!!
Michelle: my tired, been alone for too many days, bored, I-have-a-ton-of-stuff-to-bring-your-way-and-will-do-so-when-my-husband-gets-off-his-dime, thanks-for-buying-my-book-but-never-giving-me-an-honestly-brutal-review friend, I think your great! LOL! My husband is bringing a truck load of crap your way on Tuesday. If you're not around, he'll just drop it on the other side of the front gate.
Jen: Serously, their is know need for you to bashe people jsut cuze there grammor and spellin' ain't so hot. I meen cum on, are any of us that purfect? Give me a brake. It's jsut so vary unfare of you to pass jugdement on others for there inabelity to keep there words strait and there fingars on the corrext keys! (Wow, you can't tell, but I think I am so freakin' funny! As long as I can amuse myself, right? LOL!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 11:52 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258467, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
Okay it's true. You equal if not surpass momoftreasures in the drama department. My bad! You are correct. We are mean. (I've been mean for years though, LOL!)
I'll still be home on Tuesday, so that works for me!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:02 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258473, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 34
Sun Feb-25-07 12:31 PM by madmolly
Thank you very much! I take my label and wear it proudly!
I'll push him on Tuesday then. He is attempting to match my drama with crap about how far out of the way it is and what meetings he has that day, blah, blah, blah... Can I get a drama label for him too? LOL!
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:32 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258480, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 37
Hey, we tried to get rid of you years ago, but you just kept hanging around!!!! (Remember all that drama?)
Tell your DH to stop complaing and get his sorry butt over here. That triplet mom NEEDS the stroller, like yesterday! LOL!
Okay this thread really is getting out of control and I imagine it'll be yanked shortly!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:45 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258490, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 42
Now that was drama! I was the TC outcast who deserved to have my children taken away by CPS as I was recklessly driving 5 hours to receive care for my fake triplet pregnancy and encouraging the same dangerous behavior in innocent, unsuspecting *real* TC moms! LOL!
Actually, I don't really have triplets. I am a 55 year old lonely man, who's wife left me cause my hairline is running away from my face and viagra failed me. Oh, did I mention that my wife left me for my brother and took my dog with her? And, if that wasn't bad enough, this all happened during a hurricane and a tree fell on my house. I am too young for social security and too old to pull a hot chick with money! Oh the woes I have!
I gots me some drama! I am the keng of drama, babby! momoftreasures, humbble thyself! You can't tutch this!
(Uh-oh, I just flopped the nuts!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 12:53 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258492, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 46
madmolly I guess we'll be seeing you walking into the Dateline predator series where you will meet Ketih Hanson (hottie!)
where do I need to go to find nut flopping??? I have obviously missed it!
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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kylamel
Sun Feb-25-07 11:57 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1424 posts
#258470, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
I dont think that anyone is bashing. I guess there are many of us who behind the scenes question her and some other member's posts and feel comfortable agreeing.
EVERYONE has drama in their lives to some degree. I think we can all agree on that. Venting is great, and a wonderful way to release anxiety, etc. and move on, but some posts start of bad and then escalate to unbelievable situations... therein begins the doubt.
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:24 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258478, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 36
"Flopped the nuts"?
That is going to be my new saying! LOL! I love it!!! I am truly going to use that every opportunity I get!
I am replacing "Dude, I crapped the bed" with "Dude, I flopped the nuts!"
LMAO!!
God, I'm hysterical! (okay...obnoxious too, but mostly hysterical!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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ShanAZ
Sun Feb-25-07 12:03 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
611 posts
#258474, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
Ha ha ha. I'll see your drama and raise you.
Let's see....DH problems, which are getting better. Kids have been sick since November where I got Thanksgiving called off. My disabled mother moved in with me. My single mom sister got her tires slashed and was about to get kicked out of her apartment and there was nothing I could do. I am currently in a battle with my ex husband, which I have never mentioned here about our older son, whom I've also never mentioned here about child support. We have been fighting for years over custody, but my son who is now almost 16 wants to be with his father and my ex wants me to pay him child support. We don't have a pot to you know. DH lost his job in July and had to take a lesser paying job for a while which caused us to get further behind. We paid all our December bills with a credit card. Our septic backed up in December and cost us another $350 that we didn't have. I had to buy my son's christmas plane ticket for $500 that we did not have. We have no medical insurance either. I haven't even had a followup exam after the girls were born to see if everything worked out o.k. down there. My papaw is currently in the hospital with congestive heart failure. My great aunt is nuts and driving my mother nuts because she can't understand why my mother can't live with and take care of her, so in turn my mother gets more depressed and stressed out each day. My son will be 16 in April, a big birthday that will go by with nothing special from mom.
And this is just a brief glance of my life from Sep-Now. I can't imagine what the rest of the year holds.
This is generally a supportive forum. I would hope that it's a place where a HOM can vent. And when it rains it usually does pour. Some of us may not have enough outlets and have to pour everything out here.
ggg, 25 weekers
Nov, 2005
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 12:05 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258475, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
Lea,
Your so meen! even i no that just cuz you dont never right purfek, dont meen u cant be a briliant nurs. i no lots of nurses that aint reel good righters but made it thru all that schoolin.
Your label is "Comedian via internet"
I obviously think I am as funny as you...I've never even heard of Munchausen by internet...but if it adds some drama to my life I SAY BRING IT!! I LOVE reading about those suffering beyond repair without ever seeming to get their heads above water. I only seem to post if I need help anyway as I don't feel like I have much to offer other than an opinion.
...why do you think I can't stay away from the Anna Nicole media train wreck!! I think I need an intervention to keep me from tuning in to the latest on the paternity legal filings!!!
Joni
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:19 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258477, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 39
Oh Anna!! That's a butt load of drama!!! What a story! Did they find out the paternity yet? It's gonna be that loser, no name guy. Did Howard kill Daniel? Is mom just trailer trash who needs to go back to Texas and write a book about her 15 mins of fame? Can we bury the freakin' body already? Oh my head is swimming with Anna drama!!! LOL!
(Joni, your post maid me laugf owt loud! I think you is preety funnie, my frend!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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Jan77
Sun Feb-25-07 11:54 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
244 posts
#258468, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Who are we to call her out like this? If you read on the "About Us" page of Triplet Connection it says...
The Triplet Connection "A Network of Caring and Sharing for Multiple-birth Families"
So she is not allowed to share? So what if she just needs sympathy? If she does have triplets then she is just as entitled as the rest of us. This thread is ridiculous and should never have been made public especially since a lot of you seem to believe that she truly does have triplets.
Jana
GBG Born August 5, 2005
31 Weeks
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 12:36 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258483, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Last I heard Anna Nicoles body is not doing as well being preserved as James Brown's is...MAYBE the boyfriend (Birkhardt?)is James Browns wifes baby daddy???? THINK of the headlines...
I come here for drama and I WANT DRAMA....
actually kiddos are taking an extra long nap...dh at the grocery and I HAVE to rip myself away from ANS headlines...it's going to get embarassing shortly! plus I have a wee headache from that last dirty martini I had on date night last night...btw..not looking for sympathy from anyone so don't label me a faker
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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tiara312
Sun Feb-25-07 12:40 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
233 posts
#258484, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Sun Feb-25-07 01:06 PM by tiara312
This is why I don't post much anymore. I have nothing but one bad thing happening to me after another. I have been deemed not worthy of TC because I only have 2 breathing. This is why I don't post. I am sorry but this really hurt my feelings so I can only imagine what she is feeling like. I could care less about what bottles to use or what diaper is better. How many strollers do you need or if breastfeeding is best. My kids are almost 3 so I can't even tell you about how to get them to poop in the potty because I never had any issues. But I can lend an ear and an encouraging word when you need it. My issues are with life itself. I just really hate the fact that we can't all hug one another when we need a hug instead of becomeing judge and jury. In one year I have had my lights and heat turned off, car broke down, trust issues with dh, roof falling in, dd school I can't afford, an unexpected pregancy, a misscarriage, and now more issues with dh. I have had to worry about how I am going to feed my kids and if Santa was going to make it this year. Does that make me a sick person. Why do we feel like she is sick because she has drama. Even if it is a lot of drama and I know it is because I have been here for a year and have seen the drama but I just try and listen and give advise. I just don't get it. Flame me all you want I am really use to it.
Gerri
Makenzie 5.5
Charles and Charley 2.5
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alimae
Sun Feb-25-07 12:48 PM
Member since Oct 13th 2006
31 posts
#258491, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 44
It seems that everyone in this thread enjoys a little drama, otherwise why would you be engaging. It is not OK to call someone out if it is not necessary. I do not think it is. Simply ignore the posts. I have been troubled by a couple of posts recently, this being one of them. The other was the post that felt it necessary to "call someone out" for having the nerve to identify her tripets as spontaneous. Any post that attacks or alienates another MOM is not appropriate. Yes, this does feel like high school. We should all focus on what we have in common rather than our differences. That is what has brought us together in the first place.
Alice
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:23 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258504, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Ok, im just gonna throw this out there, for instance, madmolly posts a vent about her day/days, her post is also positive along with the negative even though its a vent AND she also posts about other topics, throughout the week. There is nothing wrong with venting, but my thought on this is, is it ok/normal to post every single negative minute of every day here, rarely respond to other posts and rarely take positive advice.
I have spoke to the person this topic is about in emails several times, trying to help her boost her self esteem, talking to her positively, trying to get her to think positive and relax about things. Amy is not a bad person, but if she cannot deal with daily life on her own while DH is gone i feel that can be a problem. I understand she is home alone with 4 kids most days as is alot of other moms here while there DH's work out of town or state for days or weeks, my point is i guess is that none of those stated above post the minute by minute drama for each and every day, with nothing ever being positive.
Its hard to talk to someone when they will not take positive advice.
Dont mean to offend you Lea, but truly you could/do have as much drama and bad days, yet we dont get an entire negative play by play day or week out of you with no other responses to other posts and with no positive posts.
Hope I didnt offend anyone here. Sorry if i did
If im notunderstanding this please tell me but that is my take on this.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 01:27 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258507, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 52
I typed all this great stuff in the original thread but it is not showing up...I'll try to recreate my brilliance.
Faker, not faker, drama queen, whatever. I feel the need to come to your defense and the defense of the "mob mentality". The issue at hand appears to be that we come here for support from people we don't really know. Most of us (hopefully) have another "live" not virtual support system in place. If not, then you are correct in wondering if outside assistance is needed for the continued string of dramatic situations.
Most of us come here freely, on our own accord and feel free to vent or moan whatever the crisis du jour...however, we tend to come back with a "Thanks for the support, all is well". If the types of crisis that arise continue to go on and on and on...questions of validity will follow.
I'll follow the advice I give my 9 year old, ignore the behavior you don't want to encourage.
Re: making fun of grammar and typos, there is a difference between "email speak" (note the use of all my....)and just absolute flat out inability to communicate which was one of the questions re: all of the crisis while attending school...
btw...if there is a clique why am I not aware of this and why am I not in it??
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 01:44 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258513, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 53
Oh! Oh! I want to be in the click too!!! Come on....let me in!!!
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 01:47 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258514, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 55
I'm creating my own clique or "clike" your preference. It is the "I can't get enough of Anna Nicole coverage" If you would like to join just tell your husband you are very busy at the computer doing work related activities or "research" while you furiously read everything as fast as your computer can download about ANS!
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 01:51 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258516, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 56
Oh yeah, I am sooo in!
Count me as the "I can't get enough of Anna Nicole coverage" clike (lol) member number two!
(And, I might just be really offended if I get stripped of my drama title. So, I must maintain that status inside of our clike!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:53 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258518, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 56
I am currently using the old slow computer so I can watch court tv, msnbc and cnn so that I do not miss anything because this is the only computer that is in a room with a TV!! I heard late last night there would be some decisions announced today. lol
Ive been addicted for the last 2 weeks, however im tired of hearing about brittany!
Can I join ur click please?
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 01:55 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258520, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 58
Counting you as the "I can't get enough of Anna Nicole coverage" clike member number three! Welcome to the club!
(Brittany is soooo yesterday!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 01:57 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258523, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 58
Sun Feb-25-07 02:04 PM by tripletots98
ANS addict here too....let's start our own forum to discuss all the yummy details of this case
OMG-I recorded the trial from Thursday so I could go shopping & not miss all the testimony, sad, sad life! My life that is !!!
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:01 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258524, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 60
Addict!!!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:09 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258529, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 60
Ok, that makes 4! kuwl beenz!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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joytimesthree
Sun Feb-25-07 02:12 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
859 posts
#258531, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I'm going to respond directly to your post because I think you honestly had good intentions. Then the mob took over and it went downhill fast.
I think if you earnestly believe a member here (and it's soooo not cool that her name came tumbling after) has an emotional problem that is impacting the entire group negatively, then I do think it's OK to call them on it. But here is where I differ from the majority of the posters. I think that calling needs to be done privately and in the spirit of concern. What has happened here is just awful. If this is someone who has legitimate issues and is teetering on the brink of doing anything harmful...this thread may very well push her over the edge. And shame on any of us who had even the smallest thing to do with that. Who are we to decide what the limit on allowable drama is? Maybe we're the only people in her life. That's heart-breaking...especially since we've collectively turned our back on her.
There are several folks here who annoy me with their posts. But I just ignore those posts because I figure there are some of mine that annoy others as well. When a large group of people from various backgrounds comes together like this...it's bound to happen.
I sincerely hope the member you feel has a problem is able to find someone more compassionate than many of the TC members here to help her. And I pray our cruelty doesn't push her too far.
Monica
By the way, do we really want to critique grammar and spelling here? Is that what we're here for? And if we do...it's "clique" not "click."
Our greatest gifts...
Sophia (6lbs 13oz), Samuel (4lbs 7oz), & William (5lb 13oz) born on January 21, 2005 at 36 weeks.
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:16 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258533, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 64
click has always worked for me, and I did graduate and have 2 degrees!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 02:17 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258534, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 65
LMAO-"Click-Click"!
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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Tasha
Sat Feb-24-07 11:36 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258377, "Munchausen by Internet???"
Is it ever Ok to call someone out? For those that don’t know Munchausen by Internet is a term given to people who make up illness, abuse and dramatic stories for attention on internet support groups. We have had our fair share of made up stories here so I am asking here. If you suspect someone with their increasingly more dramatic stories that just don’t seem to add up when or do you call them out? Or should you? Doing reading on the subject the ‘experts’ say confronting is the best for the long term good of the group. Though it usually does cause hurt feelings and anger in the short term. So if ignoring is only causing more frequent dramas would you ever agree with calling someone out?
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
to order a 2007 Multiples Calendar
www.bluegrasstwinsclub.org
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RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Lori_Ann, Feb 24th 2007, #1
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #2
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, foreveramom, Feb 25th 2007, #3
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #5
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, tripletots98, Feb 25th 2007, #7
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Tasha, Feb 25th 2007, #8
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RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #10
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Tasha, Feb 25th 2007, #11
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, tripletots98, Feb 25th 2007, #4
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, MSTAR, Feb 25th 2007, #6
RE: Munchausen by Internet???, Suzan33, Feb 25th 2007, #12
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Lori_Ann
Sat Feb-24-07 11:40 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
500 posts
#258378, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I had been wondering the same thing recently. I will be curious to see what others say.
Lori
Mommy to ggg born at 29 weeks, 5 days on 1-30-01
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:11 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258385, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Tasha,
Let's call them out and then decide!!!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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foreveramom
Sun Feb-25-07 12:17 AM
Member since Jan 30th 2006
622 posts
#258386, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 2
I think it's about time. My mind's been drawn to wonder.
Lesa
Mom to: Kristi - 20, USAF, wife & mom **Kevin - 18, a Chemical Engineering Honor Student at USF **Kelli - 16, Principal's Honor Roll student **Angus - 4, beautiful redhead **Ruca, Nadia, Max - 2, GGB triplets www.angusandthetriplets.com
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:26 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258389, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 3
Are we all thinking of the same person? This is like a mystery novel! Can you guys tell I've been alone with the kids for 8 days? I'm hoping you or someone (or me) creates drama just to entertain me!
Okay so let's do hints and clues. Does the first letter have two humps like the Golden Arches? I'm I cold or warm?
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:33 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258391, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 5
ROFLMAO....You're good
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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Tasha
Sun Feb-25-07 12:38 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258393, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 5
CYE.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
to order a 2007 Multiples Calendar
www.bluegrasstwinsclub.org
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:41 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258394, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 8
???...CYE???
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:41 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258395, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 8
Sun Feb-25-07 12:43 AM by MSTAR
Does CYE mean momtotreasures because I'm tired and need to go to bed. Or is there someone else on here with even more dramatic and farfetched stories on a daily basis?
Shall we do an intervention? By internet??? LOL!!!!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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Tasha
Sun Feb-25-07 12:42 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258396, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 10
CYE is see your email. But yeah we are on the same track.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
to order a 2007 Multiples Calendar
www.bluegrasstwinsclub.org
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:25 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258388, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
**Brilliant** It doesn't take much for us 'TC Old Timers' to spot the red flags! You're right on target Tasha! I hope help is available...
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:31 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258390, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Okay screw it. I can't stand the suspense and it's only been two minutes. Are we talking about momtotreasures?
(Here goes the drama!)
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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Suzan33
Sun Feb-25-07 01:09 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
675 posts
#258399, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Are her posts gone already? I can't seem to find anyone by that name. I LOVE drama!!!!
Suzan
g/g/b August 21, 2005
my miracle 24 weekers!!!!
http://lilypie.com>
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julie123
Sun Feb-25-07 01:18 AM
Member since Jun 13th 2006
418 posts
#258403, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 12
It's momoftreastures, there's a post from her about 3/4 of the way down this main page.
My mom and I have often wondered the same thing, bantering back and fourth about the rediculious and quite farfetched stories.
The thing is, what do we do now? Does she really have triplets? Is she really this unfortunate to have all these problems? (I know I have weeks where it seems like something goes wrong on a daily basis) or is it all made up. Do we help, or ask it to stop? Do the moderators have input in the outcome?
I know I personally don't appreciate the drama, I feel like it takes away from some really serious issues/questions that are urgently posted. However, I know I do use this site to vent, as do many others, and I don't think that should change.
I've wanted to call her on it before, but not sure what the point would be. I mean, are we asking her to prove herself, to prove her stories. Or are we asking her to stop posting about all these negative things EVERY DAY?
Julie wife to Mark and mom to
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:25 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258404, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 15
She does have triplets, at least she has posted pics of them.
If I had that much drama, negative at that Id be locked up by now, in a straight jacket that is.
I do not think she is fake. She posts about every single thing that goes on at her house, there simply is not enough time in one day to post every single problem in a day and take care of kids with a husband in another state, study for full time classes, not to mention cooking, cleaning, spending time with the kids.
However that is just my lil ole opinion.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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kunster
Sun Feb-25-07 01:17 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
371 posts
#258401, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
WORD Tasha! I just hope that most people here are smart enough to remember that this is the internet....you can be who you want to be and have the life that you want to have. If you want attention, you can get it!! The only way to stop it is to ignore it.
Laura M. - Chicagoland
mommy to miracles
Hannah, Sarah and Emma
4/21/00 --- 28w5d
"Many children, many cares; no children, no felicity." -Christian Nevell
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:17 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258402, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Yes!!! Im not crazy!
whew
Just never knew there was an actual name for it.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 01:36 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258407, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 14
It is sad to add more 'drama' to a TC member then they obviously already have. But, I think the problems run much deeper for this (these) members. I hope they have some 'real-life' friends that can offer the help & support they need. Maybe then, using TC as an outlet for EVERYTHING else will cease & we can get back some of the more important things...like, oh I don't know say...getting through a HIGH RISK pregnancy or having fragile preemies in the NICU, dealing with developmental delays, potty training or just plain ole surviving 24 hours as a HOM parent!
Just my view on the topic...while the thread is still alive, lol!
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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angeliagg
Sun Feb-25-07 01:32 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
631 posts
#258406, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I'm glad someone has mentioned this because the neverending supply of CRAZY, drama-filled stuff just bugs me. I'm just glad I'm not the only one feeling the same way.
GBB born Dec 27, 2005 at 31w4d
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Suzan33
Sun Feb-25-07 01:50 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
675 posts
#258409, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 17
OK. On an earlier post someone wrote "momtotreasures" not "momoftreasures". That one I could find but not the first one. I think I just figured she was someone with A LOT of bad luck!!!
Suzan
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Jan77
Sun Feb-25-07 03:06 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
244 posts
#258413, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
If you are concerned about a possible faker on this site, you should contact TiffanyRay. She is really good with the detective work. It would be a shame to call someone out publicly and then be wrong.
Jana
GBG Born August 5, 2005
31 Weeks
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Jen.
Sun Feb-25-07 09:14 AM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
107 posts
#258426, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 20
For what it's worth...There are several people that have been talking with TiffaniRay about this for a few weeks now, she is fully aware of the situation and has been looking into it. She was given the heads up about this post before it was made and did not object to it.
Jen
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Jen.
Sun Feb-25-07 09:03 AM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
107 posts
#258425, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Oh Tasha...have I mentioned how much I *heart* you? You get the courage badge today my friend.
I think not only were we all thinking it, but we all knew that everyone else was thinking it too. It just took someone with the guts to finally say it publicly.
Here's my take...I think she is real. I think she really has triplets, I think her husband really works away from home and, unfortunately, I think she really is in nursing school. (As a nursing student myself it frightens me that someone who cannot complete a single sentence without spelling and grammar errors, and uses UGH with all the frequency of punctuation could be in charge of patient’s lives)
If she were a fake TiffaniRay and Kunster would have outted her by now. She has posted pictures of herself and her children, she hasn't been short on details about her name (first and last) her location and other details that fakers are usually reluctant to give.
We aren't dealing with a faker here, we are dealing with exactly what Tasha said...Munchausen by Internet. In other words...a person with a real life that manufactures or exaggerates tragedies and enjoys the attention she receives from all of the drama. It’s interesting to note that most people have been ignoring her for a long time now. It’s also interesting to note that she seems oblivious to those social cues and keeps on posting with the same and even increasing frequency. She is posting for sympathy, unfortunately she doesn’t seem to realize that the more she has posted the less sympathy she gets. As a member of an online community you have to learn to “pick your dramas”…kwim?
Is anyone else surprised at how long this thread has been up without getting anyone flamed???? That's a TC first!
Jen
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Sunshinebabies3
Sun Feb-25-07 09:28 AM
Member since Jan 28th 2006
571 posts
#258430, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 21
interesting. Honestly. I never noticed, but now you have my attention.
I think the stuff you are describing is a lot like the person you meet in an elevator who suddenly tells you that they are fat b/c their husband ran off with a 20 year old hussy while she (woman in elevator) was in labor with their 8th child. Some people as pp mentioned just dont get social cues that say TOO MUCH INFORMATION!
Asomeone else mentioned, there is a payoff for these people somehow and maybe it is the attention/sympathy. But I think those people are sad. There is clearly something wrong. I think ignoring is better than outting a person who is clearly emotionally unstable from the start. IF the posts drain you, then don't read them.
As for the nursing student with poor grammar...I think that was a low blow. My best friend grew up in Big Rock TN (seriously) and was always talking like a HICK & mixing up her cliches, but she graduted valedictorian and ended up is a L & D nurse in Phoenix at Good Sam. She works with the Big Dogs that deliver multiples. I assure you, she is great at what she does. They wouldn't use her if she weren't. My point is, while poor grammar may be an annoyance, it doesn't necessarily indicate intelligence or competance.
If TC intends to call people out on overdramatizing, I hope we can be kind enough to offer some suggested materials for support rather than offering character assasination & embarassment for people who clearly have problems to begin with. I understand the point of this thread, and agree with the intentions. I just have to admit that it makes me feel like I'm back in Middle school and the popular girls have just picked a new target for the week. Let's not do that.
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Jen.
Sun Feb-25-07 10:04 AM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
107 posts
#258444, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 24
I definitely see your point about being cautious and I think generally speaking TC tends to give the benefit of the doubt. But what some may not realize is that this person has been around not for weeks or months - but several years. At some point it has to be called to light. There are those that catch on and begin to ignore it, but as you know there are new people joining every day that get sucked into the drama because they aren't aware of the problem. Ignore it if you choose, but there are those that would rather find a resolution for the sake of long term peace.
I am sorry you were offended about my comments about someone in the nursing profession but I have to stand by them. Having a particular accent or mixing up cliches doesn't mean your friend is a poor communicator. Generally speaking poor grammar and spelling generally does correlate with intelligence. I am aware that we are all a little relaxed about our typing in online communities...but when I have to read something repeatedly and STILL don't know what the person is saying, well, like I said before, it's a little frightening. Spelling and clear communication is SO important in any healthcare setting.
Jen
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Sunshinebabies3
Sun Feb-25-07 10:56 AM
Member since Jan 28th 2006
571 posts
#258456, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 26
Jen,
Hey. I wasnt offended by the grammar thing. We just disagree.
I understand that this drama has gone on for a long time and it is unfortunate. We agree about that. We just disagree about how to handle it.
No hard feelings or anything. Just offering a different opinion.
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Jan77
Sun Feb-25-07 11:38 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
244 posts
#258462, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 24
I completely agree. Definitely feels like middle school. If she is legit and has triplets than she deserves to come to this board to vent just like the rest of us. If it bothers anyone then they should ignore her posts. If she is coming here for sympathy, what a better place to come. Honestly I see a lot of posts where people just need some sympathy and I don't have a problem with it.
Jana
GBG Born August 5, 2005
31 Weeks
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Tasha
Sun Feb-25-07 12:43 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1189 posts
#258489, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 21
Jen thank you. As I have said before I don’t think she is a “faker” in that she is faking having triplets. I do think she needs some help. But as you said since she does have triplets that would tie Tiffani’s hands. I know several people have emailed her with concerns about this woman but there isn’t much she can do. Though she didn’t know I was going to be posting this post. I was just checking the temperature of the board.
But since I am not the only one and it came out quickly I will share why I posted my question. I am some fears now that the dramas are revolving more and more around abuse. I spent less than an hour searching her posts from the last 6-7 months. I just did a random sampling of posts started by her. The number of dramas were unreal. Some of them may very well be true, but if all of them are true then some serious life review is in order. Patterns started to emerge in that things were happening in such frequency to her and those around her you could give them subcategories. Abuse (family and friends), medical malpractice/lab errors/incompetent doctors, pregnancy scares because of the inability to correctly use a HPT correctly, job scares, housing, people out to get us because we have triplets, and Illness. Then the illness you could subcategories. There are a significant number of times when it is “touch and go” or “they are mentioning things like RARE cancer” then the next day things are all better.
I normally agree that ignoring is the best things to do, and I have done that for the years she has been here. But now all 4 of her kids have been abused by schools and daycare. Her triplets were abused by their preschool then on the first day at the new day care then her daughter molested. All in the span of a few weeks. But she deleted the molestation post (which was posted the same day as another TC member posting about a family member being molested) and seemed more upset that her husbands company was treating a family with “natural” triplets better than her. Which got several long winded upset posts during all this other drama. I’m sorry if my kids were suffering that much I wouldn’t have the mental capacity to care that another family was getting more stuff than I got when my kids were born.
I know I am coming across as cold and heartless now. Bit after reading doing a search and reading through drama after drama after drama (which are not just sick kids and being home alone with them) I am emotional drained. So I will accept being called cold an heartless now. I just wanted say I did not ask my questions because she was sick again. It goes much much deeper and took a lot for me to say something.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02
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tulip
Sun Feb-25-07 01:33 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
5882 posts
#258510, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 45
Because I noted the same trend as you, I performed a similar search of our archives as you, only I went back a couple of years. I did this quite a while ago, and yes, the trend is alarming in it's progression from "simple" complications of life (housing problems, moving from state to state) to truly frightening instances of child abuse. That is what concerns me, that the progression has moved into the realm of child abuse. It also truly frightens me that someone with so many problems of these extremes is getting close to being allowed to work in the healthcare industry.
I wish that we could, as a community of caring triplet moms, reach out to "one of us", so to speak, and find a way to compassionately help Amy. If these things are actually happening, if her life is truly that much out of control, if her children are actually in as much day to day danger as she makes out, then surely there is some way for her to receive assistance of some kind. Could be through a church, or a MOMS group, or perhaps some kind of state or federal respite program.
If this is a simple case of MBI, I pray that Amy can find help before it progressions to MBP. I pray, I really do, that her children are not truly being harmed & molested the way she describes. And if they are, then I pray that Amy gets help for her family. If there were only some way for us to reach out to her and help her get help, before it's too late. If all Amy tells us is true, she is a desperate woman in a desperate, no-win situation. As fellow women & mothers, we should not turn our backs on her. We have the collective power to help her, don't we? If all she tells us is true, or if even 90% of it is true, and we shun her, and then one of her children is kidnapped or dies (which seem to be the only things left to happen) because she's too ashamed or proud to ask for help... Well, I know that I would not be able to sleep easy for a very long time.
If all or part of what Amy says is true, then it's clear she's been living in terrible conditions for so long she is numb to it. She doesn't see her situation clearly anymore. She needs help. Maybe she needs our help.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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jostach
Sun Feb-25-07 09:18 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
928 posts
#258427, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
THANK YOU, I have suspected for a long time, but since I feel I am not in the click here, was afraid to say something.
Jennifer
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 12:54 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258493, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 23
LOL @ the "click" thing. Im glad im not the only one who feels that way. It is so wierd that the clicks are here on the main board but we don't have that problem on the vets board. I have never been in the click or part of the TC police however that has never stopped me from posting.
Post away Jennifer, do not be afraid to post about anything, that is what this place is for, regardless how you feel.
However I do have to say that even though I still feel the clicks are here, it has gotten better. I try to reply to the new mom posts but that was 7 years ago and alot of the first year is one big blur.
Some members here have very strong opinions which is fine, actually I am one of them, some people do not like that and shy away from posting but like others have said it is hard sometimes to write a post with words to make it understandable and not harsh or rude.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 12:57 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258494, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 49
Hey Sandy...you know you're my "CLick Mate", lol!!!!
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:03 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258527, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 50
check mate!!!!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 09:43 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258436, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I don't think she's fake. I think she's 100 percent real. I think she could have Munchuasen By Proxy in REAL LIFE! It's actually scary that her DH is gone all the time. It's also quite disturbing to me that a person who makes up medical problems for attention is in nursing school. I just can't believe that all the Gods have conspired against this one person to create every imaginable injustice. If she doesn't have MBH, then she has the "victim syndrome". It's all very sad. I've thought it was sad for over a year.
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 01:00 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258497, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 25
I have to agree with you Michele. It is very sad and I feel like I've been sitting back watching it unfold for a looong time now! Someone needs to intervene for the sake of this family.
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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bsebllmom9
Sun Feb-25-07 10:19 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1940 posts
#258448, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Glad I'm not the only one that has been thinking this for a looooong time...Even had a private discussion about this with someone else, wondering the same thing...
I hope she gets the help, but I think if she sees this thread, she may never return here...
Hopefully TC moderators or whoever can get in contact with her in real life and if they know enough information about her or her husband, can get some real life help for her and her kids...ultimately they will be the one to suffer in all this...
Michelle
Ty~1-2-91~ 16
Steph~11-19-92~ 14
Ayden, Ryley, Dylan~33wk2d~11-16-04~ 2
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kylamel
Sun Feb-25-07 11:18 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1424 posts
#258459, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 27
I recall discussing this w/a member here. Everyone wants to be "politically correct" because, heck, this is the internet and we dont really "know" these people.
There are SEVERAL posters who constantly have drama, drama, drama going on and it is so outrageous sometimes that I just tune them out or dont even look posts started by them. I know that some drama is legit, but several of us can spot the "attention seekers" right away.
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fivenelli
Sun Feb-25-07 10:29 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
179 posts
#258451, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Thank you, Tasha! It has been driving me crazy for a while now. While I am sorry for the circumstances that have driven this person to the state she is in, it pains me to see her prey on the good nature of the people on this board.
I hope that she can get some help and stop distracting from other issues on the board.
Jeanne
Mommy to Frank, Grace & Sarah 1/18/02
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albentrip
Sun Feb-25-07 11:21 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
209 posts
#258460, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Sun Feb-25-07 11:22 AM by albentrip
I've always given her the benefit of the doubt when I've read her posts. I think she's real but has other problems than the ones she writes about. I just hope she gets whatever kind of help she needs.
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 11:33 AM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258461, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Okay, okay...enough! Good grief! Now, it's just mob mentality taking out the weakest link. Maybe I am just the root-for-the-under-dog kinda person, but we've gone way beyond intervention and now it's just plain mean.
I have my days that are awful, where nothing seems to go right. Let me see if I can match her drama with my own:
My whole house just got over the stomach flu which I managed on my own as DH was traveling to GA for the week. And I did it with a broken arm in a cast that goes up to my elbow. And my son was just perscribed a mediacation for his asthma that doesn't have a generic form and it's costing me an arm and a leg without healh insurance. And my husband maybe relocating in June. And I am fighting a battle with my ex husband over the spring break visitation with my older children. And I just had the triplets b-day party (a month late) where I found out that my BIL got back together with a woman (and I use that term loosely) whom I hate and he doesn't care what the rest of us think. AND...okay, that's all my current drama.
So, do I get to join the ranks of Munchausen by Internet? I got drama. I come here to vent some of it, cause I hope someone else will understand. Okay, I am ready for my label!!!
Michelle: my tired, been alone for too many days, bored, I-have-a-ton-of-stuff-to-bring-your-way-and-will-do-so-when-my-husband-gets-off-his-dime, thanks-for-buying-my-book-but-never-giving-me-an-honestly-brutal-review friend, I think your great! LOL! My husband is bringing a truck load of crap your way on Tuesday. If you're not around, he'll just drop it on the other side of the front gate.
Jen: Serously, their is know need for you to bashe people jsut cuze there grammor and spellin' ain't so hot. I meen cum on, are any of us that purfect? Give me a brake. It's jsut so vary unfare of you to pass jugdement on others for there inabelity to keep there words strait and there fingars on the corrext keys! (Wow, you can't tell, but I think I am so freakin' funny! As long as I can amuse myself, right? LOL!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 11:52 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258467, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
Okay it's true. You equal if not surpass momoftreasures in the drama department. My bad! You are correct. We are mean. (I've been mean for years though, LOL!)
I'll still be home on Tuesday, so that works for me!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:02 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258473, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 34
Sun Feb-25-07 12:31 PM by madmolly
Thank you very much! I take my label and wear it proudly!
I'll push him on Tuesday then. He is attempting to match my drama with crap about how far out of the way it is and what meetings he has that day, blah, blah, blah... Can I get a drama label for him too? LOL!
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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MSTAR
Sun Feb-25-07 12:32 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
774 posts
#258480, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 37
Hey, we tried to get rid of you years ago, but you just kept hanging around!!!! (Remember all that drama?)
Tell your DH to stop complaing and get his sorry butt over here. That triplet mom NEEDS the stroller, like yesterday! LOL!
Okay this thread really is getting out of control and I imagine it'll be yanked shortly!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:45 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258490, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 42
Now that was drama! I was the TC outcast who deserved to have my children taken away by CPS as I was recklessly driving 5 hours to receive care for my fake triplet pregnancy and encouraging the same dangerous behavior in innocent, unsuspecting *real* TC moms! LOL!
Actually, I don't really have triplets. I am a 55 year old lonely man, who's wife left me cause my hairline is running away from my face and viagra failed me. Oh, did I mention that my wife left me for my brother and took my dog with her? And, if that wasn't bad enough, this all happened during a hurricane and a tree fell on my house. I am too young for social security and too old to pull a hot chick with money! Oh the woes I have!
I gots me some drama! I am the keng of drama, babby! momoftreasures, humbble thyself! You can't tutch this!
(Uh-oh, I just flopped the nuts!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 12:53 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258492, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 46
madmolly I guess we'll be seeing you walking into the Dateline predator series where you will meet Ketih Hanson (hottie!)
where do I need to go to find nut flopping??? I have obviously missed it!
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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kylamel
Sun Feb-25-07 11:57 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1424 posts
#258470, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
I dont think that anyone is bashing. I guess there are many of us who behind the scenes question her and some other member's posts and feel comfortable agreeing.
EVERYONE has drama in their lives to some degree. I think we can all agree on that. Venting is great, and a wonderful way to release anxiety, etc. and move on, but some posts start of bad and then escalate to unbelievable situations... therein begins the doubt.
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:24 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258478, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 36
"Flopped the nuts"?
That is going to be my new saying! LOL! I love it!!! I am truly going to use that every opportunity I get!
I am replacing "Dude, I crapped the bed" with "Dude, I flopped the nuts!"
LMAO!!
God, I'm hysterical! (okay...obnoxious too, but mostly hysterical!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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ShanAZ
Sun Feb-25-07 12:03 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
611 posts
#258474, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
Ha ha ha. I'll see your drama and raise you.
Let's see....DH problems, which are getting better. Kids have been sick since November where I got Thanksgiving called off. My disabled mother moved in with me. My single mom sister got her tires slashed and was about to get kicked out of her apartment and there was nothing I could do. I am currently in a battle with my ex husband, which I have never mentioned here about our older son, whom I've also never mentioned here about child support. We have been fighting for years over custody, but my son who is now almost 16 wants to be with his father and my ex wants me to pay him child support. We don't have a pot to you know. DH lost his job in July and had to take a lesser paying job for a while which caused us to get further behind. We paid all our December bills with a credit card. Our septic backed up in December and cost us another $350 that we didn't have. I had to buy my son's christmas plane ticket for $500 that we did not have. We have no medical insurance either. I haven't even had a followup exam after the girls were born to see if everything worked out o.k. down there. My papaw is currently in the hospital with congestive heart failure. My great aunt is nuts and driving my mother nuts because she can't understand why my mother can't live with and take care of her, so in turn my mother gets more depressed and stressed out each day. My son will be 16 in April, a big birthday that will go by with nothing special from mom.
And this is just a brief glance of my life from Sep-Now. I can't imagine what the rest of the year holds.
This is generally a supportive forum. I would hope that it's a place where a HOM can vent. And when it rains it usually does pour. Some of us may not have enough outlets and have to pour everything out here.
ggg, 25 weekers
Nov, 2005
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 12:05 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258475, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 32
Lea,
Your so meen! even i no that just cuz you dont never right purfek, dont meen u cant be a briliant nurs. i no lots of nurses that aint reel good righters but made it thru all that schoolin.
Your label is "Comedian via internet"
I obviously think I am as funny as you...I've never even heard of Munchausen by internet...but if it adds some drama to my life I SAY BRING IT!! I LOVE reading about those suffering beyond repair without ever seeming to get their heads above water. I only seem to post if I need help anyway as I don't feel like I have much to offer other than an opinion.
...why do you think I can't stay away from the Anna Nicole media train wreck!! I think I need an intervention to keep me from tuning in to the latest on the paternity legal filings!!!
Joni
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 12:19 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258477, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 39
Oh Anna!! That's a butt load of drama!!! What a story! Did they find out the paternity yet? It's gonna be that loser, no name guy. Did Howard kill Daniel? Is mom just trailer trash who needs to go back to Texas and write a book about her 15 mins of fame? Can we bury the freakin' body already? Oh my head is swimming with Anna drama!!! LOL!
(Joni, your post maid me laugf owt loud! I think you is preety funnie, my frend!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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Jan77
Sun Feb-25-07 11:54 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
244 posts
#258468, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Who are we to call her out like this? If you read on the "About Us" page of Triplet Connection it says...
The Triplet Connection "A Network of Caring and Sharing for Multiple-birth Families"
So she is not allowed to share? So what if she just needs sympathy? If she does have triplets then she is just as entitled as the rest of us. This thread is ridiculous and should never have been made public especially since a lot of you seem to believe that she truly does have triplets.
Jana
GBG Born August 5, 2005
31 Weeks
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 12:36 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258483, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Last I heard Anna Nicoles body is not doing as well being preserved as James Brown's is...MAYBE the boyfriend (Birkhardt?)is James Browns wifes baby daddy???? THINK of the headlines...
I come here for drama and I WANT DRAMA....
actually kiddos are taking an extra long nap...dh at the grocery and I HAVE to rip myself away from ANS headlines...it's going to get embarassing shortly! plus I have a wee headache from that last dirty martini I had on date night last night...btw..not looking for sympathy from anyone so don't label me a faker
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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tiara312
Sun Feb-25-07 12:40 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
233 posts
#258484, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Sun Feb-25-07 01:06 PM by tiara312
This is why I don't post much anymore. I have nothing but one bad thing happening to me after another. I have been deemed not worthy of TC because I only have 2 breathing. This is why I don't post. I am sorry but this really hurt my feelings so I can only imagine what she is feeling like. I could care less about what bottles to use or what diaper is better. How many strollers do you need or if breastfeeding is best. My kids are almost 3 so I can't even tell you about how to get them to poop in the potty because I never had any issues. But I can lend an ear and an encouraging word when you need it. My issues are with life itself. I just really hate the fact that we can't all hug one another when we need a hug instead of becomeing judge and jury. In one year I have had my lights and heat turned off, car broke down, trust issues with dh, roof falling in, dd school I can't afford, an unexpected pregancy, a misscarriage, and now more issues with dh. I have had to worry about how I am going to feed my kids and if Santa was going to make it this year. Does that make me a sick person. Why do we feel like she is sick because she has drama. Even if it is a lot of drama and I know it is because I have been here for a year and have seen the drama but I just try and listen and give advise. I just don't get it. Flame me all you want I am really use to it.
Gerri
Makenzie 5.5
Charles and Charley 2.5
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alimae
Sun Feb-25-07 12:48 PM
Member since Oct 13th 2006
31 posts
#258491, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 44
It seems that everyone in this thread enjoys a little drama, otherwise why would you be engaging. It is not OK to call someone out if it is not necessary. I do not think it is. Simply ignore the posts. I have been troubled by a couple of posts recently, this being one of them. The other was the post that felt it necessary to "call someone out" for having the nerve to identify her tripets as spontaneous. Any post that attacks or alienates another MOM is not appropriate. Yes, this does feel like high school. We should all focus on what we have in common rather than our differences. That is what has brought us together in the first place.
Alice
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:23 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258504, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
Ok, im just gonna throw this out there, for instance, madmolly posts a vent about her day/days, her post is also positive along with the negative even though its a vent AND she also posts about other topics, throughout the week. There is nothing wrong with venting, but my thought on this is, is it ok/normal to post every single negative minute of every day here, rarely respond to other posts and rarely take positive advice.
I have spoke to the person this topic is about in emails several times, trying to help her boost her self esteem, talking to her positively, trying to get her to think positive and relax about things. Amy is not a bad person, but if she cannot deal with daily life on her own while DH is gone i feel that can be a problem. I understand she is home alone with 4 kids most days as is alot of other moms here while there DH's work out of town or state for days or weeks, my point is i guess is that none of those stated above post the minute by minute drama for each and every day, with nothing ever being positive.
Its hard to talk to someone when they will not take positive advice.
Dont mean to offend you Lea, but truly you could/do have as much drama and bad days, yet we dont get an entire negative play by play day or week out of you with no other responses to other posts and with no positive posts.
Hope I didnt offend anyone here. Sorry if i did
If im notunderstanding this please tell me but that is my take on this.
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 01:27 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258507, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 52
I typed all this great stuff in the original thread but it is not showing up...I'll try to recreate my brilliance.
Faker, not faker, drama queen, whatever. I feel the need to come to your defense and the defense of the "mob mentality". The issue at hand appears to be that we come here for support from people we don't really know. Most of us (hopefully) have another "live" not virtual support system in place. If not, then you are correct in wondering if outside assistance is needed for the continued string of dramatic situations.
Most of us come here freely, on our own accord and feel free to vent or moan whatever the crisis du jour...however, we tend to come back with a "Thanks for the support, all is well". If the types of crisis that arise continue to go on and on and on...questions of validity will follow.
I'll follow the advice I give my 9 year old, ignore the behavior you don't want to encourage.
Re: making fun of grammar and typos, there is a difference between "email speak" (note the use of all my....)and just absolute flat out inability to communicate which was one of the questions re: all of the crisis while attending school...
btw...if there is a clique why am I not aware of this and why am I not in it??
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 01:44 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258513, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 53
Oh! Oh! I want to be in the click too!!! Come on....let me in!!!
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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jonib
Sun Feb-25-07 01:47 PM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
135 posts
#258514, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 55
I'm creating my own clique or "clike" your preference. It is the "I can't get enough of Anna Nicole coverage" If you would like to join just tell your husband you are very busy at the computer doing work related activities or "research" while you furiously read everything as fast as your computer can download about ANS!
Jonib
mom to
Abby
Andy
Caroline
33 weeks 11/20/05
Rhett 9
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 01:51 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258516, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 56
Oh yeah, I am sooo in!
Count me as the "I can't get enough of Anna Nicole coverage" clike (lol) member number two!
(And, I might just be really offended if I get stripped of my drama title. So, I must maintain that status inside of our clike!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 01:53 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258518, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 56
I am currently using the old slow computer so I can watch court tv, msnbc and cnn so that I do not miss anything because this is the only computer that is in a room with a TV!! I heard late last night there would be some decisions announced today. lol
Ive been addicted for the last 2 weeks, however im tired of hearing about brittany!
Can I join ur click please?
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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madmolly
Sun Feb-25-07 01:55 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1180 posts
#258520, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 58
Counting you as the "I can't get enough of Anna Nicole coverage" clike member number three! Welcome to the club!
(Brittany is soooo yesterday!)
Lea
bgg 1/22/06 @ 28.3 weeks
g 6/04 @ 34 weeks
g 7/99
g 6/97
www.thewaywardstork.com
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 01:57 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258523, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 58
Sun Feb-25-07 02:04 PM by tripletots98
ANS addict here too....let's start our own forum to discuss all the yummy details of this case
OMG-I recorded the trial from Thursday so I could go shopping & not miss all the testimony, sad, sad life! My life that is !!!
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:01 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258524, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 60
Addict!!!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:09 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258529, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 60
Ok, that makes 4! kuwl beenz!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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joytimesthree
Sun Feb-25-07 02:12 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
859 posts
#258531, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 0
I'm going to respond directly to your post because I think you honestly had good intentions. Then the mob took over and it went downhill fast.
I think if you earnestly believe a member here (and it's soooo not cool that her name came tumbling after) has an emotional problem that is impacting the entire group negatively, then I do think it's OK to call them on it. But here is where I differ from the majority of the posters. I think that calling needs to be done privately and in the spirit of concern. What has happened here is just awful. If this is someone who has legitimate issues and is teetering on the brink of doing anything harmful...this thread may very well push her over the edge. And shame on any of us who had even the smallest thing to do with that. Who are we to decide what the limit on allowable drama is? Maybe we're the only people in her life. That's heart-breaking...especially since we've collectively turned our back on her.
There are several folks here who annoy me with their posts. But I just ignore those posts because I figure there are some of mine that annoy others as well. When a large group of people from various backgrounds comes together like this...it's bound to happen.
I sincerely hope the member you feel has a problem is able to find someone more compassionate than many of the TC members here to help her. And I pray our cruelty doesn't push her too far.
Monica
By the way, do we really want to critique grammar and spelling here? Is that what we're here for? And if we do...it's "clique" not "click."
Our greatest gifts...
Sophia (6lbs 13oz), Samuel (4lbs 7oz), & William (5lb 13oz) born on January 21, 2005 at 36 weeks.
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tripplefun
Sun Feb-25-07 02:16 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
733 posts
#258533, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 64
click has always worked for me, and I did graduate and have 2 degrees!
Sandy, mom to
Matt just turned 18, It cant be, my baby cannot be 18 already!
We just had a birthday
Sydney 7
Morgan 7
Cade 7
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tripletots98
Sun Feb-25-07 02:17 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1101 posts
#258534, "RE: Munchausen by Internet???"
In response to Reply # 65
LMAO-"Click-Click"!
Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d
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