Member since Nov 05th 2007
231 posts
#110534, "daddyof8 Posts"
At the request of Jonathan Gosselin and after a detailed converation with him, we have removed all of his posts that he authored and some of his posted threads. Some of the threads remain where he has responded to but he did request that all of his posted pictures of his family be removed--they have. My heart goes out to this family who have found because of their unique situation, through the world of the internet and probing eyes of the media, that life can be made so miserable and scary that this becomes the result.
Both Jonathan and I thank those of you on the forum who have offered positive words of support and encouragement in the past months. It has become apparent that not all of the posters on this forum have been HOM families. Some have been members of the media that used this access for a avenue into their private lives and others who only wanted to criticize for reasons of jealosy or whatever. So as a result, all future posts regarding the Gosselin family will be removed.
Jeff Bleyl
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RE: daddyof8 Posts, Catw3kittens, Jun 03rd 2005, #1
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Please don't take this personally, tulip, Jun 04th 2005, #33
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Just my point of view, tulip, Jun 04th 2005, #43
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Catw3kittens Fri Jun-03-05 12:08 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4691 posts
#110535, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
I am very disappointed to hear these things. I have such admiration and respect for this family, and I would like to continue to hear good news about them and their children.
If this post does not clear, then I'm hopeful that at least our love will be conveyed to them.
Cat w/3 Kittens
Caidan, Carina and Caeleigh
born at 31 weeks, 1/8/04.
It is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all. In memory of Carina, who was greatly loved.
Caeleigh and Caidan are on the move!! My triplets are
http://lilypie.com>
Cat w/3 Kittens
Caidan, Carina and Caeleigh
Born at 31 weeks, 1/8/04.
It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. In memory of Carina, who was greatly loved.
http://b3.lilypie.com/bDA
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Karens5girls Fri Jun-03-05 12:09 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
779 posts
#110536, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
I understand your point, but I too am sorry about all of it. It just STINKS!
I am glad I was able to donate to the post from Jessi before it was pulled. I know it wasn't much, but it can all add up. Thank you Jessi for doing that.
MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE EXTENDED A HAND OR HEART TO THE GOSSLINS.
GOD BLESS THE GOSSLIN FAMILY. THEY ARE LOVED BY US!
Karen
Mom to 5 Beauties
Allison,8,Grace,5
Margaret, Melissa, Michelle (6/20/02--34weeks 1day)
Showing other MOMS how to stay home and earn extra income!
www.ImagineBALANCE.com/TakeChargeNow
Karen
Mom to 5 Beauties
Allison,10,Grace,7
Margaret, Melissa, Michelle (6/20/02--34weeks 1day)
Showing other MOMS how to stay home, BE HEALTHIER and earn extra income!
www.ImagineBALANCE.com/TakeChargeNow
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mw Fri Jun-03-05 12:35 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
3730 posts
#110537, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
Jeff, thanks for being so responsive to the Gosselin's needs.
Jonathan et. all,
I think you have a beautiful family, beautiful and amazing. I know that you are living such a challenge and I respect you so much for working hard and being willing to ask for help you need.
Please do NOT let the ignorant few bring you down. There is no reason to ever bring ugliness into a forum like this. I realize that there may be differences of opinion they should be able to be presented respectfully.
Take care of your family and good luck - if you need advice here, get Jeff to give you a new, anonymous id and ask away! There are many families here with 8+ kids - just didn't get them as efficiently. I hope that you can read these positive posts before they are pulled.
Marie
Marie
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Colette Fri Jun-03-05 01:18 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
470 posts
#110538, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 3
What I find that bothers me the most is realizing that there are phony people on TC just posing to get a scope or what???
It pretty sad when a support group you have joined is somehow turned into and evil weapon out to defame your family. I can't even imagine what they are going through and then to have to worry about the safety of your children. I really wish there was a way to find out and get rid of the faker(s).
++ thoughts and prayers to Jonathan and his beautiful family...
Colette
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Sheller223 Fri Jun-03-05 02:42 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
836 posts
#110539, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
It's really too bad that it had to come to this. I've always enjoyed Jonathon's posts and especially his pics of the little ones. I too, wish that there was a way to weed out the fakers. This forum has been a lifeline for me and to know that there are people out there using it for other purposes than what it is meant for makes me both angry and sad.
Jonathan, bless you and your family. I wish nothing but the best for you and hope that all the negativity coming your way calms down.
Michelle
ggg born March 15, 2005
35.2 wks
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kbp101003 Fri Jun-03-05 02:48 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
299 posts
#110540, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 5
jeff I would be willing to send you copies of my kids birth cirtificates to prove that I have HOMS, maybe that is what you could do to make people prove who they are before they are allowed to access tc. I am so sorry that daddy of 8 and his family had to go through all of this . I wish the fakers would leave the HOMS alone.
shawna moreland
mother of 5
son 1992,7lb 3oz
son 1994,9lb 3oz
daughter 2003,2lb 15oz
son 2003, 4lb 2oz
son 2003, 3 lb 13 oz
33 wks 3 days
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BYU49er Fri Jun-03-05 03:27 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
231 posts
#110541, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 6
We have debated back and forth on the issue of how to keep the board "clean". The only idea that would work is to charge some kind of fee to join and we do not want to do that. Even with the TC and the $22 yearly for dues and the magazine, this has limited the number of HOM's that we are directly in contact with as evidenced by the number on the board who are not TC members, although we do not get the number of fakers and lurkers that the free forum does. I am open to suggestions on how to clean up the files on the forum. There are a number of grandparents, aunts and uncles, and other people who have a legit reason to be associated with all of us and that is OK. Maybe it's just a problem that will never go away. Thanks to all of you who are truly there for the support of others.
Jeff
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TiffaniRay Fri Jun-03-05 03:34 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4092 posts
#110542, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 8
Jeff~
I would definitely pay to use this board!!!
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)
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AnneA Fri Jun-03-05 04:22 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
552 posts
#110543, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 8
Perhaps you could have a printable application on the site that specifies the applicants relationship to the multiples, and requires a licensed physician's signature, so either an OB or a pediatrician could verify the HOM status of the applicant. Grandparents or any other family members would then be able to obtain access as well. You could verify the physician is legit by cross-referencing their license number with the state's licensing board. Most licensing boards are open access websites by now. I'd be glad to help compile a database of the websites for each state. Hopefully a quick check like that wouldn't be too administratively cumbersome, and would at least weed out the lazy fakers. Someone who is willing to go to great lengths to get on a board like this will find a way no matter what process you institute, but if we make it a little bit harder, the lazy ones may just move on.
Anne
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BYU49er Fri Jun-03-05 06:41 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
231 posts
#110544, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 11
This might be a good idea. What do others of you think?
Jeff
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TiffaniRay Fri Jun-03-05 06:42 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4092 posts
#110545, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
I'm game!
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)
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Rosemarie3 Sun Jun-05-05 05:13 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
1347 posts
#110546, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 17
i would do what ever you wanted to be a member of this group, either a yearly fee or send you birth certificates, or a letter from my dr..
BBG Triplets Born March 31, 2004
31 weeks three days
Douglas
Kalie and
John Michael
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AnneA Fri Jun-03-05 06:51 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
552 posts
#110547, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
Then again, the application should probably be printed on or accompanied by physician's letterhead, otherwise all someone would have to do is get on the licensing board website, pull off a license number and forge the signature. Just thinking out loud here!
Anne
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ktzkids Fri Jun-03-05 08:24 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
487 posts
#110548, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
I don't know that I would go as far as requiring a doctor's letter. That seems pretty intense. Perhaps a simple questionnaire (FITB, not multiple choice) would help a little. I actually read posts a lot during my pregnancy, and I didn't sign-up until after I paid my annual dues because I *totally* thought it was MEMBERS only. Once I paid my dues, I realized I could've joined the forum a LONG time before that! At any rate, I was shocked at how easy it was to setup an account and post here. There is WAY more restrictions in the yahoo groups that I'm part of. That's another thing about TC that makes it too open (IMO)... couldn't we make it so you can't even SEE the posts unless you're logged in? Just my two cents.
As far as the Gosselin's go... I never responded to any of the posts because I too, was absorbed in my own little world. My heart goes out to him. I am SOOO sad to see the way society can treat decent human beings. My recent "world" has been my healthcare coverage and it absolutely SICKENS me that (obviously for financial reasons) abortion, reduction, vasectomy, tubal ligations etc is completely covered under my plan, but ANYTHING related to fertility is not. No reversals, no infertility assistance. It's sad that is how families are viewed. It's like society is saying "If you can't have them without help, you shouldn't have them." Sorry for the tangent. I'm truly sorry for that family's pain.
Gina,
Mom to GBB, the most amazing 27 weekers!
Gina,
Mom to GBB, the most amazing 27 weekers!
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Tracey Sat Jun-04-05 11:40 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
2768 posts
#110549, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
You need to offer temporary access to those new parents-to-be. Upon learning of a pending HOM birth, the last thing a parents needs to deal with is more paperwork. Offer immediate availability for a couple of weeks/months. It is stressful enough to be pregnant, no need to exacerbate the challenges.
Tracey
b 9/96
g 10/97
bgg 8/99 (35wk)
Tracey
Michael (11)
Francesca (10)
Matthew, Alexis & Gabrielle (8)
Torunn (Norwegian DD,20)
Johannes (German DS,17)
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MSTAR Sat Jun-04-05 09:19 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2746 posts
#110550, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
I think this is a horrible idea and I would never have become a member and never donated money if I was required to jump through hoops to do so. There are so many newly pregnant women that need us immediately. The advice they get here when they are only 10-20 weeks pregnant can make all the difference in the world for their pregnancies. How would we feel knowing that a triplet pregnancy was lost because they couldn't ask a question because they we're waiting for you guys to look at a doctor's letter? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of this site? We have to put up with some fakers to bring good to all the legitimate people that are in great need for this site and I don't think it is wise to let the media attention given to one person's dilemma change how this site works.
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
Tired of looking haggard, like you have too many kids?
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tulip Sat Jun-04-05 11:16 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#110551, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 44
My sentiments exactly.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that is the miracle of my children has made me Real.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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JesTrips Sun Jun-05-05 04:55 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1227 posts
#110552, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 44
What if you grant temp access - then require a survey be completed and returned within a certain time frame.
I also like the idea from tulip - have different levels of access. Maybe an "open" board and then more private boards for verified members.
In the beginning I would not have jumped through hoops to join this site. I would not have paid money either - that is why I havn't joined MOST yet.
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Triplet Mommy Sun Jun-05-05 06:49 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
3075 posts
#110553, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
I think fakers suck but what would suck more is me not being able to get on this board b/c I haven't gone to my OB/DR/Ped and being able to come on here.
Whatever is decided it will have to take time to put into place.
PS Did you get my private msg last month?
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TripleScoop Mon Jun-06-05 11:26 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2112 posts
#110554, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
Printable application-I would do this
BBB Triplets Born 2003
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lajamc Tue Jun-07-05 08:00 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
698 posts
#110555, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 16
I don't know what happened since I haven't been on TC for a while, but I think asking for doc letters/signatures would make it a lot harder to access this site for honest people, and may not deter the dishonest. I didn't have the time or energy to arrange for that kind of thing when I was pregnant or when my trio were tiny. I'm also afraid the amazing resources on this board would be out of reach to those who need it if there was a mandatory fee.
This 'place' is absolutely amazing and I know all of us appreciate it so much. I am sorry to hear that 'fakers' are trying to spoil it, but it seems to me that where there's a will, there's a way, and a determined faker or creep would get around these suggested protections, while sincere people might not get the help they are seeking.
BTW, you should never provide your kids birth certificates to a non-govt. entity, imho. That's a prime way for identity thieves to operate. (They apply for ssn's, etc.)
Good luck, and thanks for all that you do for we hom families...
Laura, mom of ggb's 7/99
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mw Sat Jun-04-05 08:55 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
3730 posts
#110556, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 11
If a faker wants to be here badly enough, it will happen. You can put as many restrictions as you want. It will happen.
As far as a physician's note - well, I just have two survivors, there are families here with one survivor and those moms that have lost all their babies. What kind of a note would we have to provide.
There are probably people here that may not want to give out their physician's name as well.
Many of us who do not have our triplets intact still frequent this site. I'd hate to see that become very difficult. I also think that you'd have parents that do not want to post pics of their children to "prove" their existence. Again, My survivors have been mistaken as triplet brothers of other, same age, friends. It wouldn't be that hard to "fake" a picture.
Please realize that more (many, many more) of the members here are real than are not. This is a public forum and while I have no problem restricting to when people are logged in (although then I'd really be messed up when I travel since I can never remember my login info) I'd really hate to see it become so restrictive that there are parents that really need help that cannot figure out how to get on.
As with any criminal - if they want something badly enough, they will make it happen. I just will NEVER understand the draw to the point of being a faker on the site.
Marie
Marie
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tulip Sat Jun-04-05 10:11 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#110557, "Please don't take this personally"
In response to Reply # 11
I feel that sending in "proof" of my triplets is disturbing, to say the least. I can't imagine having to pay a co-pay to go ask our pediatrician for a signed letter on letterhead. What an insult to her and to me, not to mention the extreme inconvenience on my part to lug all my kids across town. I also would not send in my children's birth certificates to anyone. I didn't do that to get any freebies, and I won't do it now. I am not comfortable sending in a photo of my children for "proof" purposes. Perhaps some day I'll submit their photo for the TC home page or something, or maybe I won't. Just the thought that I would be "required" to send a photo of my children is very upsetting.
I have joined online forums where there was a lengthy questionnaire involved to screen members. I don't have a problem with this kind of process, although I would balk at some kinds of questions that seemed personal or unanswerable. Obviously, since I breastfed my babies, I would not be able to answer questions asking for a "how many scoops of formula" ratio answer, and I know many other women would have the same problem. And while I know this proposed question was tongue-in-cheek, I would not know how to answer about how many wipes it takes to clean up after stomach flu (I tend to use cloth diapers for this purpose). I think that there are so many paths to being a parent, it would be quite difficult to find a 100% commonality set of "how to" questions. Some of us co-slept, some of us did CIO. Some of us practice AP, some don't. Some of us had help, some didn't. Some of us went "full term" with no NICU time, others didn't.
Speaking of a certain online forum where I had to answer a questionnaire, I feel they handle things well. The questionnaire is long, and the answers required mandate thought and consideration. Until you return the questionnaire *and are approved* you can only view certain forums, you cannot post. Once you are approved you can only view/post in certain forums. As your post count grows you are allowed access to more & more forums (which tend to have more & more personal discussions), some of which require you to apply again for access due to to the very personal conversations/subjects within. I feel that this method is probably quite effective in weeding out troublemakers, but of course nothing is 100% foolproof.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that is the miracle of my children has made me Real.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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pack o kids Mon Jun-06-05 08:49 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
13 posts
#110558, "RE: Please don't take this personally"
In response to Reply # 33
I do not send pictures of my children across the Internet, ever. I also would not send birth cert's. Or my doctors name.
Yes I could be lying, but it is a risk that we all take on the Internet, because it is anonymous. In some ways that is a bad thing, such as fakers on TC. However, my daughter Cat once posted a pic of herself and we later found out that a man was using it to...I cant say this politely..."jack off" and was trying to find out more information about her. Cat had ceased to make the Internet anonymous for that one man and it cost her many nights sleep, I can tell you that.
So, I like this forum a lot. I think its a fantastic resource. I also think that, like almost everything on the net, it has to be taken with care. And I wouldnt jump through hoops that sacrified my kids privacy to get here.
Greta...and Brian
and our heartsongs:
cat-lucy-jane-tabby-matt-phil-rosie-will
*if you think my home is full, you should see my heart*
Catherine Noelle (Cat), 16
Lucy Margaret and Jane Meredith, 8
Tabitha Cait, 6
Matthew Luther, Phillip Lukas, a
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thrice blessed Sat Jun-04-05 01:16 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
238 posts
#110559, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 8
I have some ideas....
You could require the person wanting to join either snail mail or email you a photo of all the multiples/kids together in one picture with a sign that says Triplet Connection and the current date. They couldn't have stolen a photo like that! I think that would be much easier than getting a doctor's note.
In addition, you could add a pregnancy forum and leave the bereaved forum (and add any other forum you would like) available for the general public, but require a photo for the rest. Also, like someone else said, make the posts only readable if you are logged in.
Another idea instead of submitting a photo, though less secure, would be to add a questionnaire with nonmultiple-choice questions. For example, "How did you hear about TC?", "Why would you like to join TC?", "How has your life changed since you or someone you know has been pregnant with multiples or had multiples?", etc. Make it at least one page and require them to have to fully answer each question for the form to be accepted. State that if each question isn't completely answered, they will not be given access to this site and that each questionnaire will be reviewed by TC.
Lisa
Lisa
http://lilypie.com>
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thrice blessed Sat Jun-04-05 04:02 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
238 posts
#110561, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
I can't imagine anyone who does not have a camera to take pictures of their children, but yet has Internet access. I also can't imagine there is anyone who would post on here who never takes pictures of a children.
Anyway, if someone can afford the Internet or get to a library to use it and post on TC, they can buy a cheap disposable camera and afford a stamp to mail a picture. What does someone think TC is going to do with a picture of their children? If they are that paranoid they shouldn't be posting on the Internet, as their IP address can be traced. Just my opinion.
Lisa
Lisa
http://lilypie.com>
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tulip Sat Jun-04-05 04:22 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#110562, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 39
I guess, then, that I shouldn't post on the internet anymore, eh? Okay, then...
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that is the miracle of my children has made me Real.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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thrice blessed Sat Jun-04-05 08:07 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
238 posts
#110563, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 40
I'm sure there are a lot of TC members who would appreciate a private forum. By the way, since you use this forum all the time, then why would you not want to make it more secure by just verifying that you are who you say you are. After all, this is a legitimate website, which even publishes a magazine.
Lisa
Lisa
http://lilypie.com>
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tulip Sat Jun-04-05 08:38 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#110564, "Just my point of view"
In response to Reply # 42
I can fake any identity if I wanted to. Anyone can fake any identity. "Proving" or "verifying" who I am in real life goes a step too far if it involves a my name/address/identification, or a doctor's note, or photographs of my kids, or "how to" questions. I am a very private person in real life. I do not give out my phone number to people easily, nor my email address, nor my home address. In this day & age I feel it is prudent to carefully guard details about one's life.
As I stated earlier, a questionnaire is an acceptable form of screening in my view (but I can't imagine what kind of questions could be asked that would actually screen out a faker). However, I don't believe ANY kind of verification is warranted at this forum at this time. I've been here long enough to have been disappointed, shocked & betrayed when various fakers have been exposed over the years. However, none of these fakers has destroyed my life that I know of. Made me upset at wasted time, emotion, and prayers on their behalf, yes. But made me feel so devastated that I am willing to surrender my privacy? No, I'm not there yet.
Just because I don't want to surrender my privacy does not mean I am an illegitimate person. I shudder when I hear comments made that allude to people needing to prove they have nothing to hide. If the thousands of supportive and informative & emotional posts I've made at this forum over the years aren't proof enough that I'm legitimate, then this world is in a much worse state than my cynical & jaded perspective tells me.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that is the miracle of my children has made me Real.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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thrice blessed Sat Jun-04-05 09:55 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
238 posts
#110565, "RE: Just my point of view"
In response to Reply # 43
Thank goodness everyone on here isn't as private as you or we would have no pictures on here to enjoy, no used triple strollers for sale, no one offering to give their pregnancy books to someone for free, no one selling their Halloween costumes, etc. Also, the TC magazine would have no supporters, subscribers, or pictures.
You have a right to be as anonymous as you want, but IMO it's unwarranted as far as the TC goes. If the TC decide they want to keep it as is, then so be it. If not, then whatever they decide I'm behind it 100%.
Lisa
Lisa
http://lilypie.com>
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momoftreasures Fri Jun-03-05 03:21 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1133 posts
#110566, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
We will miss him and his family. We wish you the best of luck with your beutiful family. Dont forget that their are some of us her on TC that truely love your family and would do anything for you. I hope the media finds something else to do then to torture your family. I hope your appeal goes well we are rooting for you and your family and God is on your side. I think he is massively trying to teach the awful media a thing or too. FIght not only for yourselfs but for all of us HOM's that struggle everyday with the media, public and even family about our decisions to prosue, and concour are infertility. We have all been truely blessed by god to have such special and awesome children.
Thank You Daddyof8 for everything you have done on this tread to brighten someone elses day.
It is just sad that some people on this board are fakers. My heart breaks for them they must be very very lonely and sad people.
Amy Houle
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psalm127_3 Fri Jun-03-05 03:42 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
654 posts
#110567, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
I haven't had the time or energy to really go forward with this, but I was thinking about seeing if we could sponsor them as the Sonshine Family like I did for a family here before. With this latest post and what has gone on before, I feel even more convicted that I open the avenues up for a new Sonshine Family.
Let me know if this is something I can do and we can do it relatively anonymously.
I am sorry this happened.
Michelle
Mom to three beautiful girls and a precious baby boy!
http://www.shaklee.net/healthyhomematters
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JesTrips Fri Jun-03-05 04:30 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1227 posts
#110568, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 10
Before all the posts were removed, I had offered to accept donations through my paypal account.
I have had some response, but I think the post was pulled before most people could read.
I am still willing to do this and I have spoken with Jonathan about this too.
Please email or pm me if interested.
"
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psalm127_3 Fri Jun-03-05 04:32 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
654 posts
#110569, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 12
I have a paypal account set up for families with HOM in need. It is called Sonshine Family. If you would rather set it up through that, let me know, and I will make the necessary changes and rebroadcast the need. The response on this forum is positive, even when the family is not identified. The Paypal account is monitored by more than one TC member and has checks and balances in place to be sure all funds are directed to the family in need.
Michelle
Mom to three beautiful girls and a precious baby boy!
http://www.shaklee.net/healthyhomematters
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JesTrips Fri Jun-03-05 04:45 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1227 posts
#110570, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 13
Sounds like a plan.
Let me know what I can do.
"
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momoftreasures Fri Jun-03-05 05:11 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1133 posts
#110571, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 14
I am Finally done with college. I will start writing letters to places and see if maybe we can get a van rolling in the driveway. Their are still many people in America that love people. I have noting better to do I can't sleep anyway I am so use to working on English till 3 am...
Positive always wins the negative....I really hate what people have done to that family....They could really use the love at this point..
Amy Houle
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psalm127_3 Sat Jun-04-05 11:11 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
654 posts
#110572, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 14
can you e-mail me?
msswank95@comcast.net
we can discuss what you already had in place and what we can do from this point.
i also want to be sure and speak with the board owner to verify the people, their needs, location, etc.
Michelle
Mom to three beautiful girls and a precious baby boy!
http://www.shaklee.net/healthyhomematters
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BYU49er Fri Jun-03-05 06:44 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
231 posts
#110573, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 12
If you care to continue with this on a private basis and Jonathan approves, have him call me or both of you conference call me and we will see how to get this going annoynamously (?)
Jeff
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psalm127_3 Wed Jun-08-05 04:26 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
654 posts
#110574, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 19
I will be happy to. Some time later this week I will try to call you, or maybe next week. I just had a procedure done on my back and am not feeling real well right now, but as soon as I am more myself I will call.
You can e-mail me at msswank95@comcast.net if you would like.
Thanks!
Michelle
Mom to three beautiful girls and a precious baby boy!
http://www.shaklee.net/healthyhomematters
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tripletsplus1 Fri Jun-03-05 07:03 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
135 posts
#110578, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
So sad to hear this. It sickens me to think members of the media would use this forum for their own gain! My continued prayers for the Gosselins. May God continue to bless your family.
Crystal
Mama to:
Abbie 2
Mackenzie, Morgan, & Madison
Born 8-20-04 @ 32weeks
Mackenzie Hope, Morgan Faith, Madison Joy
http://lilypie.com>http://lilypie.com/baby1/050820/2/19
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bgg trio Fri Jun-03-05 07:29 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
593 posts
#110579, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 21
SO sad to see Jonathan leave. I am fairly new to this site and really didn't get to know him. But he seemed like a decent guy who has a lot of faith in God. I hope the stalkers leave his family alone or get prosecuted. I meant to respond to his post about the stalkers but had been so caught us in my own little world of problems that I didn't get a chance to. My problems are minor compared to his. Hope they get to keep their nurse.
Div
mom of bgg@34w2d
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franjipani Sat Jun-04-05 04:09 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2217 posts
#110580, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
hi jeff
again, from the journalism point of view, i think removing jonathan's posts was the smart, safe thing to do. it protects his family. when we are in a safe environment as jonathan felt he has, we let our hair down and are freer with our words.
from my point of view, it is sad and disappointing that his posts and perspective are gone. looking forward to reading from him soon. even better if it could be happy updates on the good things happening in their lives.
all best to them, and also to you.
ps - i am compleley willing to pay to access this board. or to provide proof that we are indeed parents of triplets.
tess
mummy to sebastian ('revered one) 3 yrs
jasper (precious stone), sela (pause and reflect) and carys (beloved) on 23 feb 2004, 26wks 2 d
tess
mummy to 7yr old ds & the triumverate born 2004
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PAML Sat Jun-04-05 05:22 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2403 posts
#110581, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
I wouldn't go so far as to get a Doctor's letter, that seems a little too much to do. Plus, I'm sure someone will just learn how to fake Dr's letterhead, and who would be in charge of following up on who is actually a legitimate Doctor or not.
I don't mind being on a public forum, I try not to post things that would be considered too personal and that would in some way give away too much about my family. So, for me, the public aspect goes hand-in-hand with message boards, most people should realize that nutty people will always find a way to get in. I probably wouldn't continue if this became a private board.
PAM
ggg @ 31+ weeks
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hanerhah Sat Jun-04-05 05:36 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1108 posts
#110582, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 26
One other point of view ...I would also be willing to pay to be on this board as many of you said, but would you have been willing to pay to be on it the first day you saw it? I am just afraid that paying to get on would scare off new members before they have a chance to learn the true value of this site. I would have been hesitant to pay to enter the first day I searched and found this.
Just another point of view.
Heidi
Lydia - 5lbs, Sasha 5.8lbs and Isabella 5.7lbs
born at 34 weeks 5 days
AND NOW...MARCUS EARL, 9.2lbs!!!!
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jami Sat Jun-04-05 06:47 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1355 posts
#110583, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 27
good point. i actually paid to be on another board when i found out i was having triplets before finding this one.
turned out the other board had no activity! i kinda felt cheated, but carrying 3 babies i was totally willing to take the chance.
I lost $10, but found this board for free.
I'd pay now in a hearbeat, but not sure if I would have before.
There are also people who come to this board ttc for information. I love those people who want to come here and ask questions before leaping into fertility meds, etc.
We also serve as research, just another thought.
Jami
mom to fairy-girl & spontaneous b/g/g triplets born at 36 weeks.
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Georgiana Ibach Sat Jun-04-05 08:03 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
16 posts
#110584, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 28
I think it would be a good idea to screen more thoroughly. Dr.'s signature with letterhead, birth certificates after birth. We all need to be advocates for ourselves and children. I feel really bad for the Gossellin's. I will miss reading his posts. He has to do what is needed to protect his family. I would pay or fill out necessary papers to remain on this site. Our society finds all kinds of reasons to prey, or to say bad things, etc.. . Only we - HOM - can protect ourselves and educate the society.
Georgiana
mom to Alexandra, Thomas, katarina 4/3/98 27 wkers
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3inafternoon Sat Jun-04-05 08:00 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
477 posts
#110585, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
The doctor's note is a little over the top. My doctor and I are busy enough as it is to have to take the time out to do something like that.
How about answering questions to join the board????
-- ie. What is the correct ratio of formula to water to make 1 gallon of formula?
How many baby wipes does it take to get through 2 days of the stomach flu?
Really, I think alot of people should lighten up. If someone is offensive -- ignore the post. That is what we have to do in the real world.
Stephanie
Stephanie
God could not be everywhere, therefore he created mothers.
Anon
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kansas family Sat Jun-04-05 01:16 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
87 posts
#110586, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 30
I agree with Stephanie...if made too difficult to share in this venue, we would have missed out on possibly helping Grammy Muzz through her experience. Plus we see a lot of people here that are having trouble just putting together formula much less extras for their little guys. I, for one, am merely an out of state step grandma to be but have gained a ton of insights and knowledge for "hanging" around all of you. Should I have had to gain a physician's letter to attest to the fact that my daughter in law is expecting trips, I would never have met or shared your experience. Anyone looking for info on ANYBODY or ANYTHING can gain it here or on the internet with a little effort. This forum is not exclusive to that. I very much admire the Gosselins and am TOTALLY in awe at the beauty of their entire family. However, I do feel that their own website has as much info as they have divulged here. The fact that someone would choose to use it hurt them is not their fault nor the fault of this forum--there are just people out there who make it their live's work to hurt others. We can serve ourselves better but not giving them the power that they seek.
Just one person's opinion
Kansas Family
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4js Sat Jun-04-05 01:55 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
572 posts
#110587, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 30
I agree...there is no way I would go to the lengths of getting my dr. signature to be a member of a message board...also, I have already paid for a subscription to TC magazine, I wouldn't pay anymore to access the boards. People need to realize that this is the internet...you have no privacy when posting on the internet. If you feel violated or offended that there are lurkers or fakers, then maybe you need to really limit the info you give in your posts. I don't live and breath by TC or any message board (who has the time?)...if it came down to paying or having to give all sorts of proof that were are HOM families, I think this board would have very little activity.
~Michelle~
ds 8-98 & gbg 5-03
**************
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tripletsplus1 Sat Jun-04-05 06:53 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
135 posts
#110588, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 37
I totally agree with Michelle. I would not pay to be a member of this board, I already pay to have internet service. (which is a splurge for us since we are down to one incom) I also agree that this is the internet and anyone can see what youpost. Fakers will always find a way to violate the rules set up, but I don't feel the rest of us should be penalized. I think getting a drs. signature is a bit much to ask, and asking silly questions about baby stuff seems a bit ridiculous. This is what it is...an internet forum.
Crystal
Mama to:
Abbie 2
Mackenzie, Morgan, & Madison
Born 8-20-04 @ 32weeks
Mackenzie Hope, Morgan Faith, Madison Joy
http://lilypie.com>http://lilypie.com/baby1/050820/2/19
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casanndra Sun Jun-05-05 09:29 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
182 posts
#110590, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 30
>
>How about answering questions to join the board????
>
> -- ie. What is the correct ratio of formula to water to
>make 1 gallon of formula?
My babies were on two or three formulas at the same time with different mixtures therefor I would not know something like this! Does that mean I am a faker?
>How many baby wipes does it take to get through 2 days of
>the stomach flu?
If I am dealing with the stomach flu with triplets for two days, I am certainly not going to keep track of this!
All of us have different situations, and questions like this aren't going to apply to all of us. A pregnant mom isn't going to know these, should she be excluded too?
Kelli
Morgan (11) & natural (by natural I mean concieved on top of a picnic table at a campground) BBG triplets Eric, Josh, and Hannah born @ 33w1d
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ntsmith Sat Jun-04-05 02:45 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
127 posts
#110591, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
I am so sad for the family. I have been on here for a long time and I mostly kept to myelf I read and I thought that sounds like me and I seen thing that helped me I just never thought that I had something to help someone eles. I will say this my girl friend who as triplet boys told me about TC when we met I went on and the 1st time I got the tummy person I couldn't figure out why this person only wanted to talk about how big I got I thought it strange and then stoped talking to them when on to read more and found out about the tummy person. I called her and told her that I felt vilated. Really I would love to pay to come here put I with 5 kids live pay check to pay check. I hope that when I share something with people that they speck the truth. I put my trust in God and I think that in the TC it is my world people who know what I'm going threw I read someone eles story once to my ex-husband the triplets and DD Dad and he said sound like you had a day like yesterday. I told him that is was someone eles story he was like "she could be your friend" LOL You are all such good people and we will over take The FAKERS!!! I will say thank you to the Gosselins for given us a touch of what their lives are like and Say MAY GOD Continue to BLESS you as much as he has. I beleave that your children choose you and your children all eight of them chose really good parents. Thanks again to all who remind me that I am not alone in this wrold.
Traci,
mom to
Chelsea 4/29/97
Gracie, Trevor, Crystal @37 4/23/01
Brandon 7/8/04
Allyson 2/2/07
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TripleScoop Sat Jun-04-05 09:52 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2112 posts
#110592, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 38
Birth certificates would rule me out. We will have to wait a year until we get birth certificates printed for our adopted boys. What about grandparents or aunts?
I do not think I would send a copy of my childrens birth certificate to anyone anyway. I know the moderators on the board are very trustworthy but I do not think it is a good idea to send personal info to anyone.
Well, at least it was an idea, and that is what we are trying to do-get ideas. We can join local clubs and for that you have to have the kidos to proof it! But for the internet, it is just too open and we just have to be careful what we say. I have made a mistake once and said too much info. on one of my posts and asked Jeff to remove it. Thanks Jeff.
Anyway, I really enjoy using the board for free. I think a paid forum would eliminate most fakers but the media will pay to be a part of the board. The people we are most worried about would find their way right back. The board would loose me if I had to pay.
BBB Triplets Born 2003
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Athena139 Sun Jun-05-05 11:50 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
42 posts
#110593, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
*Just* a twin mom member here (plus 3 other kids!)
Anyhow I have been coming to Triplet Connection for many years now. At first I lurked and eventually I got brave enough to post every once in a while. Never have I felt unwelcome. I am now VERY sad to think that I may not be welcome because I *only* had twins. I have learned SO much from the wonderful people here. How would I have found out about Podee bottles or about how wonderful the triple runabout is - both of which I bought and LOVED after the recommendations here. I also learned hilarious ways to respond to strangers when they ask 'those' questions. I also learned what things NOT to say to a triplet mom.
So, I guess I would fail whatever 'rules' you would put in place to weed out the people that don't belong here. And that's a shame because I think I can and do contribute positively to this BB.
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BYU49er Wed Jun-08-05 02:38 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
231 posts
#110594, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 48
Athena, you are welcome here. Twins are definitely a high risk pregnancy, if not, the TC would have never published their book, Exceptional Pregnancies for Parents Expecting Twins.
Jeff
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Athena139 Wed Jun-08-05 08:06 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
42 posts
#110595, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 80
Thank you for replying and 'welcoming' me. I thought I had read all the twin/multiple pregnancy books out there but I missed that one.
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kimba Sun Jun-05-05 08:00 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
113 posts
#110596, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
Sun Jun-05-05 08:21 PM
Okay- back up. Jonathan's situation was unique. From what I read, he indicated there were some issues with real, live people that had met his family that may have carried over into cyber-space. Was there some catiness and jealousy by other commenters? I don't know but come on- you put yourself out there, sometimes you deal with idiots. When your family is unique, sometimes it makes you a target. All parents of multiples should realize that- you probably have to get a little thick-skinned.
Let's face it, most of us don't have 8 children in our family and deal with being negatively portrayed by the media. It is a complete shame that this happened. Does that mean you have to change the entire dynamic of triplet connection because of this incident? NO.
I am an expectant mother of triplets, I turn to this board for advice but I would not pay for it. I don't think the grandparents, etc. of HOM families would pay and I don't think most HOM parents would pay- money is tight for many of us, remember?
I think there should be a detailed survey like the ones they have for other multiples' boards which included your home phone number and some basic questions. Yes, fakers will still fake but let us remember they are in the minority.
Okay, I'll step off me soap box now but I had to give an opinion because this whole situation is enough to make me walk away from all this drama and never come back. I don't think all of this negativity is fair for those of us who come here for advice from other HOM families, especially not the pregnant mom's who have enough to worry about.
Kim
Mom to Lily, Jack and Ethan
Born @ 26 weeks on 8/19/05
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ash Mon Jun-06-05 01:07 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
955 posts
#110597, "Well Said"
In response to Reply # 52
Mon Jun-06-05 01:08 AM
Well Said Kimba
I think this whole situation is getting out and hand and plain silly! I am sorry if there are fakers on this Board but they will always exist and as such there is not a lot you can do. Making it difficult for genuine people to join is not going to stop a determined faker. I think the situation re. daddyof8 is unique and quiet frankly as he has his own public website where he displays publically photos of his kids together with his story - (he even gives his contact email address) - why now is TC to blame for all his troubles? I certainly don't want to come across as being harsh to him or his family and I do think the negative comments he was getting are not fair and should not happen. However, he decided a week or so ago to no longer post on TC and now the storm has erupted yet again. I think there are more pressing issues that effect others that are being forgotton in all this. Can we not just let this die for now - fakers are always out there but why let the whole issue ruin a good Board?
Is this TC or a debate forum re. one family?
BGB - Born December 2000
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ash Mon Jun-06-05 06:27 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
955 posts
#110599, "RE: Well Said"
In response to Reply # 85
I am obviously not reading into this whole situation as you are. Fakers can frequent any internet chat board - it happens to all boards and there is not a lot you can do to stop it happening. How you can make it a safer place to discuss personal things with other like minded individuals is beyond me, and the notion of the media in the background waiting to strike is a bit much. I don't feel that making it harder to join a board such as this is going to make any difference. The daddyof8 situation is unique and this family are in the spotlight already - yes it would be ideal if you could 100% guarantee that no one outside of the HOM 'family' intrudes on a board such as this but how can you offer such a guarantee without putting off people who are genuine and would like to join the board. I would really hate to see things change in a drastic fashion because of this series of events - this is a lively board full of discussions and opinions - I don't see that TC should change nor should it have to. My opinion only and I am not saying this to offend - isnt' that what discussion is all about?
BGB - Born December 2000
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Teamtriple Tue Jun-07-05 01:11 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
64 posts
#110600, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 52
As a mother of 5 I have sympathy for the Gosslin family. To be blessed with EIGHT beautiful, healthy kids from 2 pregnancties is AMAZING! I have been on the receiving end of some harsh words and critcised for having "more than my share" of kids in tow at the store or anywhere we go as a family. For this proud father of 8 to feel he has to hide from the public and now the internet is a shame. For those of you that have the "he brought it on himself" attitude to go with it...SHAME on you! The whole purpose of discussion boards like this on on TC is to SUPPORT each other, not kick them when they are down. I don't post often, as there are too many clicquy people that post here now and the advice is only given out to those that "know" each other or that have the best subject line.
For the person that wrote, " I turn to this board for advice but would not pay for it. I don't think that grandparents, etc, of HOM would pay and don't think most HOM parents would pay- money is tight"
BOO-HOO! :`( You SHOULD have to pay for the service that this board is providing to you. It is a resouce so valuable that you should thank God that Janet Blyel has made this available to you and to others like you FREE OF CHARGE because she cares about getting you the support you need no matter what! The MOST website makes people pay for use of all forums other than the pregnancty forum, but you can check for yourself which one is used most. The TC forum....because it is free. How many of you are guilty of using this board for the past months, or years and have never paid any money to the Triplet Connection? Did you know that even your local "mothers of twins" clubs charge you to use their website or to attend meetings, to have FAR less information given to you than you will get on this board alone! Should the TC disscussion boards be for PAID members...my vote is for YES! Is money tight for all of us....YES! If you think it is tight now, wait until they are born and get older like my children...into every activity times 3 ( or five for me), then theres the clothes, school equip, etc. But can we spend $20 a year on a resource like TC? YES. I have been a member for almost 10 years and plan on keeping my membership until they close their doors. If for no other reason at all.....to keep it going for people like you and the hundreds out there that are pregnant with triplets, quads, or more and need the advice. Remember that running the TC website , printing the TC newsletter/ magazine, and the conventions, etc. all cost money. Without our help and money, the TC will fold up and go away, then where will you be?
I know you are all going to want to flame me. But really, I am intitled to my own opinion just as you are.
Tracy
Proud Mom to Triplets Plus Two....
Shelby, Jerry, Taylor
Jeremy and Sierra
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niknakx3 Mon Jun-06-05 07:52 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
1119 posts
#110602, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
This is rediculus!!! I can not believe that this has been so blown out of context. I am so sorry to this family that this has happened to them. That the media has done this again. But I have been a member for over a year now, I have enjoyed and learned so much from this site. I am a triplet mother of three beautiful girls who are now 14 mo old. I just sent in my $22 for a yearly subs. and small donation to TC. God only knows we can't afford it but I did bc I enjoy the company. I will totally and completely stop coming here if I have to show any varification or pay more money just to get advice. I will not drag my kids across town just to get a note from our doc saying that I have triplets. That's nuts. And I am sorry that there are sick fakers out there that frequent this site. So why should I have to pay for it or put my personal life down on paper so everyone can see. No Thankyou.
Before I became a member, if I knew I had to spend money to join or had to go through hoops to become a member at TC I would have never joined. Iam sorry if this sounds harsh in any way. But I came here to get advice and hopefully give some advice to new mothers. Not to deal with this.
Nicole,
My little ladybugs,
Brynn, Taylor, Shelby,
36w, March 22, 04
God does give miracles, I have three to prove it.
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kansas family Mon Jun-06-05 05:50 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
87 posts
#110603, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
Have I totally missed something here? Probably so, but that's my problem. I thought that Jon acknowledged that the person who caused him the grief was originally a "trusted volunteer" in his own home. Why is this forum taking the heat? Is not the same information available on his own website or in the newspaper? He has a beautiful family and should be duly proud, but I don't see anyone having to show their credentials to visit his website and look at his pictures, and copies of old press releases. I really don't think that this forum is the problem here--I feel that the problem is just nutty nasty people who will bother you no matter WHAT! And I think that we are making a "mountain out of a molehill".
Kansas Family
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bgg trio Mon Jun-06-05 08:11 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
593 posts
#110604, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 58
Well said.
Div
mom of bgg
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tulip Mon Jun-06-05 08:13 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#110605, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 58
I believe that somehow someone from here discovered that someone else from here is actually not a triplet family, nor do they have anyone in their lives with triplets. They are the faker referred to in this thread. Their identity has not been disclosed, which may or may not be a good thing. Anyways, since yet another faker has been discovered on this board, people are talking about ways to make the board more secure (OR, are expressing their view that this board does not need to be made more secure).
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that is the miracle of my children has made me Real.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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Colette Tue Jun-07-05 05:33 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
470 posts
#110606, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 60
It seems that many of you have no clue on what transpired and are against making the TC safer to fakers. What was discovered is that someone from here was posting BLOGS on an internet site about Jonathan and his family and someone from here discovered that we basically had a TRADER or a FAKER. This TRADER/FAKER specifially mentioned about his (Jonathans) posts from this internet site, I don't remember if he/she mentioned TC specifically but what other triplet site does he post on....
So now that you know, how would you feel if someone took the things you posted about here and posted them on another site.
Would you maybe "jump through a few hoops" to make is somewhat safer....
I sure would, I don't think paying a small fee, maybe even a one time fee would kill anyone and like someone said it would basically be a donation to something you have been able to use for free all these years. What is wrong with TC asking questions or having a questionaire to verify your info. You're right it might not deter all the FAKERS but even if it deters one it worked.
How would you feel if this happened to your family, would you still think its ridiculous??
Knowing now that there is a TRADER/FAKER among us how comfortable are you still posting you most inner thoughts, your joys, your disappointments.
I would support a way to make this place safer, IMHO.........
Colette
AJ 8/22/00
Dominick, Joseph & Rocco 6/23/04
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jenanddarol Tue Jun-07-05 08:13 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
594 posts
#110607, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 63
Tue Jun-07-05 08:32 AM
How is it that we have a 'traitor' when absolutely ANYONE member or not, registered or not, can view this site and all of its messages? They can even use the search function to focus on the posts of one individual.
Of course nobody feels good about being slandered, but that is the nature of most blogs. We can't change the fact there are always going to be people who say nasty things about HOM families. Some people are jealous and others just ignorant about the realities of raising an HOM family. Its not TC's fault that it happened, its not the Gosselins fault, its just the way it is.
You say that some people have no clue and are 'against making TC safer' is about as informed as anyone who says being against the Iraq war is the same thing as being against the troops. ITS NOT THE SAME THING!!! Of course we want the fakers to go away, but at what cost?? To completely decimate a wonderful recourse? I GUARANTEE that if there are any hoops put in the way of access to this forum participation will decline tremendously until people stop coming at all.... don't believe me? Go do MOST and see what I mean. You have to be a paying member to access their forums as a result, everyone comes here and the MOST forums are dead by comparison. How many people have gone to a site for the first time only to find extra registrations steps required to access the information you were looking for and how many times have we simply changed or minds and closed the browser? Of course those of us already HERE see the value in these forums, but people coming here for the first time, people NOT YET INVESTED in this community, won't bother 'jumping through hoops' to come here.
Jeff, if you are wise you will leave TC just as it is, no applications, no fees, no extra steps. Basic registration to post and none to lurk. Leave it alone, it works. Fakers will find us no matter how you try to stop them, but the more open this place is and the more REAL people on here the less we all notice the wacks.
Jen
Mom to Spencer 7yo
Seville, Olivia, Noah 4yo
Check out our family at http://www.raisingmultiples.com/DavisFamily.html
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tulip Tue Jun-07-05 10:33 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#110608, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 66
Jen, this was AWESOME! Thank you so much!
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that is the miracle of my children has made me Real.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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tripletsplus1 Tue Jun-07-05 06:29 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
135 posts
#110609, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 66
AMEN!! I couldn't have said it better!!!
Crystal
Mama to:
Abbie 2
Mackenzie, Morgan, & Madison
Born 8-20-04 @ 32weeks
Mackenzie Hope, Morgan Faith, Madison Joy
http://lilypie.com>http://lilypie.com/baby1/050820/2/19
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niknakx3 Thu Jun-09-05 08:24 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
1119 posts
#110610, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 66
Thankyou for saying this. This is exactly what I was trying to say in my post earlier. Yeah thanks.
Nicole
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MSTAR Tue Jun-07-05 10:00 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2746 posts
#110611, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 63
I don't think it wise to post your most personal thoughts on a public message board. I think it IS wise to continue offering advice to newly pregnant women who have very, very important questions that may affect the outcome of their pregnancy. If someone had to wait to be verified or pay money they may not be able to come to us to ask about bleeding early on, or cerclages, or selective reduction, or what kind of doctor to see or what kind of hospital to deliver in. I wonder how many babies have literally been saved because of this site? Just in the last couple of days we've had these exact questions from women who are very early into their pregnancies and may have not been ready to "join". I am so glad that we are here for these people. I think this is by far more important than some of the very private, personal issues people CHOOSE to post here. I will put up with fakers any day if I can help someone else or the life of an unborn child and leave my personal business to my multiples yahoo group where we are screened more intensely.
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d
Our surprise baby Austin born 06/15/2005
www.fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com
Tired of looking haggard, like you have too many kids?
www.michelesmineralmakeup.com
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TiffaniRay Tue Jun-07-05 07:19 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4092 posts
#110612, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 60
Well, I gave a heads up that someone from the Berks Blog (the negative one about Jonathan) was coming to this board to obtain info. I never said anything about Faker as I am reading my original post at the moment (this is the exact reason I save everything I have posted). I said we either have a trader (traitor) or someone here who does not belong. I know this is the internet, blah blah but I wanted everyone here to know that TC was being referred to in those blogs and the a$$holes from that board were coming here and taking Jonathan's posts out of context and relaying them over there. That is NOT the purpose of this board. Anyway, my original thread was just to let everyone know and for them to take it how they wanted. Nothing more, nothing less.
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)
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Colette Tue Jun-07-05 01:36 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
470 posts
#110613, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 64
Sorry Tiffani, I couldn't remember who exactly posted about that whole Berks Blog issue but I didn't mean to put you in the middle or offend you.
It just seemed that people were commenting about the whole daddyof8 post removal without knowing what really happened.
OOPS, yes I spelled traitor wrong (didn't have my coffee yet).....
I was all for doing whatever (within reason) to make this place safer but I guess I am in the minority.....
Alot of you seem to mention how dead MOST is because you have to pay, well MOST has never turned down a membership because of financial reasons and I am sure if TC decided to do a paid membership route, I am sure exceptions would be made because of financial reasons or even sometyhing like a temporary membership, etc...
Colette
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TiffaniRay Tue Jun-07-05 03:07 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4092 posts
#110614, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 71
I'm not offended. I've learned to take everything with a grain of salt, especially on message boards, LOL! I spelled traitor wrong in my original thread that is why I wrote it like that.
I originally posted cause I felt bad the way Jonathan was getting blasted over there and some were from HOM parents too. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when you come to this board to get info then re-word it over on another boar that is just plain wrong, kwim?
Anyway, I think we should let this topic R.I.P. I'm sure Jonathan is still lurking and I don't think he should have to be reminded of this everyday.
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)
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Colette Tue Jun-07-05 03:47 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
470 posts
#110615, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 75
I agree.....
Maybe we should borrow the Vegas Motto
What goes on TC stays on TC..........
LOL
Colette
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Teamtriple Tue Jun-07-05 09:03 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
64 posts
#110616, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
As a mother of 5 I have sympathy for the Gosslin family. To be blessed with EIGHT beautiful, healthy kids from 2 pregnancties is AMAZING! I have been on the receiving end of some harsh words and critcised for having "more than my share" of kids in tow at the store or anywhere we go as a family. For this proud father of 8 to feel he has to hide from the public and now the internet is a shame. For those of you that have the "he brought it on himself" attitude to go with it...SHAME on you! The whole purpose of discussion boards like this on on TC is to SUPPORT each other, not kick them when they are down. I don't post often, as there are too many clicquy people that post here now and the advice is only given out to those that "know" each other or that have the best subject line.
For the person that wrote, " I turn to this board for advice but would not pay for it. I don't think that grandparents, etc, of HOM would pay and don't think most HOM parents would pay- money is tight"
BOO-HOO! :`( You SHOULD have to pay for the service that this board is providing to you. It is a resouce so valuable that you should thank God that Janet Blyel has made this available to you and to others like you FREE OF CHARGE because she cares about getting you the support you need no matter what! The MOST website makes people pay for use of all forums other than the pregnancty forum, but you can check for yourself which one is used most. The TC forum....because it is free. How many of you are guilty of using this board for the past months, or years and have never paid any money to the Triplet Connection? Did you know that even your local "mothers of twins" clubs charge you to use their website or to attend meetings, to have FAR less information given to you than you will get on this board alone! Should the TC disscussion boards be for PAID members...my vote is for YES! Is money tight for all of us....YES! If you think it is tight now, wait until they are born and get older like my children...into every activity times 3 ( or five for me), then theres the clothes, school equip, etc. But can we spend $20 a year on a resource like TC? YES. I have been a member for almost 10 years and plan on keeping my membership until they close their doors. If for no other reason at all.....to keep it going for people like you and the hundreds out there that are pregnant with triplets, quads, or more and need the advice. Remember that running the TC website , printing the TC newsletter/ magazine, and the conventions, etc. all cost money. Without our help and money, the TC will fold up and go away, then where will you be?
I know you are all going to want to flame me. But really, I am intitled to my own opinion just as you are.
Tracy
Proud Mom to Triplets Plus Two....
Shelby, Jerry, Taylor
(We are 9 !)
Jeremy (just turned 5 yrs)and
Sierra (almost 4 yrs)
Tracy
Proud Mom to Triplets Plus Two....
Shelby, Jerry, Taylor
Jeremy and Sierra
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LRB Tue Jun-07-05 10:36 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1193 posts
#110617, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 67
Thank you Tracy for saying what I've tried to type, but could never get the words quite right. This forum isn't free - and it isn't littered with commercial advertising, membership databases aren't sold for profit, etc. - that means it is MEMBER supported and supported through charitable contributions to the organization.
Triplet Connection is a not-for-profit corporation that provides services - it isn't merely a website with a paypal link to register to use it's discussion forum. There are expenses related to keeping the forum operating - and the Triplet Connection operating, for that matter.
I think if people continue to flock to "free", they will get just what they pay for at some point.
Many thanks to Jeff and Janet and their labor of love and committment to the Triplet Connection. Also, any thanks to those who find the resources here valuable enough to join at $22 per year at a minimum and many more making charitable donations to this organization.
Robin
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thrice blessed Tue Jun-07-05 02:05 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
238 posts
#110618, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 67
Yes, thank you so much for writing what I have been thinking! I can't believe some on here feel they are "entitled" to using this forum for free. Personally, I think it's very generous that the people running TC have this free forum for us. Those of us benefiting from the valuable advice here ought to thank them.
We should support TC way we can, so that it will continue to be around for us and future triplet parents.
Lisa
Lisa
http://lilypie.com>
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4b4me Tue Jun-07-05 02:51 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
117 posts
#110619, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 67
I am sorry to have to do this, but I heartily disagree with you. I think there is a reason that we have free forums, and that reason is the same as public library and public instruction. There ARE people out there that cannot afford $20 a year to join, and they should not have to miss out on this site because they can't afford it. I know that some people might suggest scholarship to prevent this, but I also know that can be a royal PITB, and for socialization, I personally, would not go to the trouble. I know tons of people that don't go to the trouble of filling out forms or even inquiring about scholarship for their children's educations. I am sure socialization and advice, no matter how important, would rank even lower. I vote to keep the forum free, and suggest that those who are able to donate continue to do so. I would also like to add that my local multiples group is free and I work hard to keep it so. We have many lower income families in our area, as we are an agricutural area, and have many migrant workers. I would be appalled to ask someone to take food from their children's mouths to join a support group. And, YES - to some people that $20 would be that difficult for them. Not everyone, but for the few that it would affect, I think it is important enough to continue on as we are now.
Tiff SAHM to
Mitchell (7 - pitcher on dad's baseball team)
Devin (4 - playing with the dandelions in the outfield)
Dustin (4 - shortstop cuz I'm tough!)
Dylan (4 - catcher, 'cause I have a big mouth, and I do EVERYTHING with Mitchell!)
Simba (5yo b rescued Heinz breed)
Wheezer (12 yo g spoiled cat - well, they are all spoiled )
Minny the rat (g about 10 months)
Rosy (golden retriever pup g 3 mos)
Tiff SAHM to
M (9 - pitcher on dad's baseball team)
D (5 - playing with the dandelions in the outfield)
D (5 - shortstop cuz I'm tough!)
D (5 - catcher, 'cause I have a big mouth, and I do EVERYTHING with M!)
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Tasha Tue Jun-07-05 02:04 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2042 posts
#110621, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 0
Tue Jun-07-05 02:05 PM
I would like to applaud Janet and Jeff for all their work setting up and running the Triplet Connection all these years. I am sure this forum has created a lot of headaches over the past years but I am so glad they know its worth and keep it here for all to use. I know I feel its benefits far outweigh the annoyance and distraction of the inevitable fakers or troublemaker that comes in. I say inevitable because this is not something special to the HOM world. If there is a forum online then there has been someone that has probably tried to cause trouble it in at some point.
I personally would hate to see this forum set up in a way you had to jump through hoops to get into it. Not because I am a private person, heck I am as far from private as you come. I trust the Bleyls and would have no problem sending them copies of birth certificates (wouldn’t do this to just anyone), pictures (oh wait already have), heck I would give them open access to my medical records if I thought it would help them help another family. But rather I feel the benefits of this board as it is set up now are numerous. For those that want it to go to a pay site and feel that the information provided is something they would pay for, GOOD! DO IT! I hope you are already members of TC, if not now is a great time to join. This coming from someone who is not a model TC member. I let my membership laps because I didn’t have the money one month so I put it aside to send in the next month, only to forget and wonder why I hadn’t gotten my magazine in a long time. I have since rejoined and regret letting my membership laps. I won’t let that happen again.
I fear for what would happen to this site and TC if potential members had to jump through hoops or pay money to access this site. I think we all know what would happen to the site. How many of you visit MOST Online on a regular basis? I am sure many of you are members of MOST also but the site doesn’t get enough traffic to go check regularly. I have seen it happen many times to forum on many subjects in my 24 years online. It took me a year to finally pony up the money to join the MOST forum after having been disappointed on other pay forums only to be extremely disappointed again. Also, I wonder how many members TC would miss out on without the forum. I know TC would survive just fine without the forum, and with one less headache. It survived for years before the forum and would again. But there would be a good number of us that would have never have heard of TC or realized its value without having stumbled on the forum first. As someone else has already mentioned those of us who have been on the forum a while know its true value. But had my husband clicked on the link that first time when I was on bed rest to be greeted with a silly questionnaire about formula and wipes or had to pay to access he most likely would have hit the back button and went to the next link. We most likely would have missed out on some great advice, wonderful stories, and exceptional friends. I know there are many here who use the site with no intention of ever joining TC. I do find that sad. I understand not being able to do it at one time or another. I have been there. But I hope that when it is financially feasible every forum member would become a member and support the site.
In my time here on TC Forum we have encountered some interesting characters. From the elaborate fakes who went into great detail about their ‘lives’ for well over a year before being discovered, the obvious exaggerated stories, to the hit and run trouble makers. Unlike most I find these fakes fascinating. some funny, and others just sad. There are so many people who go to online groups pretending they have twins, triplets, octuplets that I would love it if it was possible to do a study on them. It is like there is so sub form of Muchousin (sp?) syndrome involved in faking multiples. I know this latest intrusion wasn’t from someone faking multiples but I think we can lump them in together. And while these intrusions on our board can be annoying, again I feel the good far outweighs the bad.
For those that find a public forum like this no longer acceptable and don’t feel safe. I understand your feelings. But I honestly believe that any silly questionnaire or payment required to join is only giving you a false sense of security. There will always be the potent ional for someone who doesn’t belong getting in or someone who does belong sharing your posts with others outside the group. I defy anyone to find a site with well over 200 members that is truly secure. But if these requirements are still what you need in a forum I am not going to argue. It is setup and ready for you anytime you wish at MOST. I would gladly rejoin MOST to keep up with those who feel they can’t post on a public board anymore. But please let’s not condemn TC Forum to a slow death and deprive future expecting HOM parents the easy access and information we have all had the luxury of receiving just because of the occasional outside annoyance.
Edited to add:
I didn't mean that last part in an "if you don't like it leave" kind of way, but I am sure it came across that way. I mean it as you already have the option of a public or private board. Lets leave that option open for future HOMs as well.
Tasha
Julia, Megan and Alex 7/00
Abby 12/02
http://pulledontc.blogspot.com/
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momoftreasures Tue Jun-07-05 07:11 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1133 posts
#110622, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 72
I just thought I would bring up the point that during my pregnancy I posted on the Babycenter forums because I had no idea I could post here. I guess with a busy 2.5 year old and extreme sickness and a computer that was down a flight of stairs I could not bring myself to investigate it much. I lurked for a few months but never truely realized what a asset the tc was until my babies were at least 6 months. I did meet one person her on TC who remains very ananamous sorry cant spell because of the fear of internet freaks. I actually met this person and she was my light to TC. I have never known until recently that I could even be a official member. Like I said my time is pretty limited and it has not been until the last 6 months I have become a vivid poster. I was not even momoftreasures when I first posted I was sunshine something and I cant remember my stuff so I changed my name. Anyway what I am saying is we even had problems on the baby center sites. they use to have a very active infertility board for people struggling with issues. I would visit it often to give other hopeful women encouragement to keep trying because as proof I know that miracles can happen. Recently the board has died because women who would get pg would harass people on these boards, tell them they were playing god ect by using drugs. I have watched this tread die and at night it is virtually empty. So sad it was a awesome place to post. the mulitple site were I posted pg with the trio was active with a specific group of women. I was one of the last to deliver and they reformated the forum and everyone stopped posting so we have more the less lost contact. It is sad because i shared much of my pg with them. This could happen with tc also I dont want to lose the great support and friends I have made here. If it was not for many of you I would have no were to turn and no one to scream help me out.
Thank you for all of your support. I wish I had lurked harder when I was pregnant the women who are just beginning there pg are so luck to have made the step and joined this board. I still believe if I would of had more support during my pg that I definalty would of mentally done better. But i did the best i could and thanks to everyone telling me that I did here on this board I can believe it.
Thanks for letting me ramble and thank you to the people who make this board possible.
Amy Houle
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Teamtriple Tue Jun-07-05 10:46 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
64 posts
#110623, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 72
I just wanted to say that I am sorry if I was a bit harsh to those in my previous post, however, I still do feel that those who CAn afford to pay the $22 a year should get out their checkbboks right now and do so. I say this because I have been a HOM support person for 9 years and have supported MANY that visit this site either by phone or email. I personally know TC has suppoerted many families that could not afford to pay for memberships, expectant mothers packets, and tender heart packages as well. There has been many times that I have called the TC office to request that information be sent to a family for free because they couldn't afford it and they have dropped it in the mail THAT day with no hint of "they better pay us for this". My own experience with TC and Janet Blyel goes back 9.5 years when I was pregnant with my own HOM's. I was just 13wks pregnant and had JUST found out I was having quads. I wanted all the information I could get and rambled on for quite some time to Janet about my fears. She calmed me down and gave me good hard information to bring back to my doctor and the words she relayed to me rang in my head and made me change lots of things about the way I was to deal with my pregnancty from that day forward. The one statement that I have realyed to the over 200 families that I have personally supported was one directly from Janets mouth. She told me that even when you aren't hungry because of the nausia(?sp) and the growing babies taking up so much romm to MAKE yourself eat, and eat frequently because "your babies are starving"! Up until that point, I had LOST 21 pounds because I was so sick. Those words changed my ways and made me stronger for what was to lie ahead. As it turns out, at 16 weeks, one of my quads hearts stopped beating and we were told not to continue on, but becuse of information I got from TC, I KNEW it could be done so i went for it. The results are my 9.5 yr old triplets. I don't think a day goes by that I am not thankful for TC and all they have done for me. I know that some are worse off than I am financially, but to those that can....PLEASE support TC ( and MOST ) for all they do. It is HARD, sometimes thankless, and emotionally draining doing what TC does, but worth it to save even one set of babies!
Tracy
Proud Mom to Triplets Plus Two....
Shelby, Jerry, Taylor
Jeremy and Sierra
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VballPlayer Fri Jun-03-05 06:43 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
1231 posts
#110576, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 86
I'd like to know where to send money!
Carrie
and the crew...
Tyler 9/01 (7)
and Noah 10/03(5)
Andrew, Jason, and Tessa (3) 11/05
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JesTrips Sat Jun-04-05 07:34 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1227 posts
#110577, "RE: daddyof8 Posts"
In response to Reply # 18
If you will visit the Gosselin's website, there is a link to make a donation.
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