(Starts as a boring thread but people get annoyed after one person says she won't find any age bad and just be thankful to have kids. I bold that post but intesting to read some of our old posts before then as well. A mild one to be pulled. Blasts from the past.)
Nick G
Fri Mar-07-08 01:59 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
820 posts
#175531, "What age was the "terrible" age?"
Terrible twos? Not with us. We have the terrible 3 1/2's going here. We've lost the handle on these kids. They hit each other, hit us, throw body-flailing tantrums, do not get intimidated by punishment, do not respond when spoken to....
I hope its just the cooped up in the house winter blues, and I surely hope its just a phase. We're about to call nanny 911.
I met a lady with quads who told me her worst time was at this same age, but they all seemed to snap out of it by the time they were four.
Husband to Tammie
Father of Samantha Nicole, Kayla Shea , and Dominic Paul born on 10/14/02
Step-father to Kristina Nicole born on 09/24/85
Grandfather to Riley Faith born on 5/13/06
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RE: What age was the "terrible" age?, tulip, Mar 18th 2006, #1
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tulip
Sat Mar-18-06 11:55 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#175538, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Give me two-year olds any day over what we are dealing with in our house. Some days I'm reduced to tears before noon. I pray, pray, pray all day long. I start each day with a prayer before I even get up. If I was a weaker person I'd be on drugs or a full-blown alcoholic by now. I pray, pray, pray this is over with by four.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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Lorahun
Sun Mar-19-06 12:05 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
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#175541, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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3...totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trio born on 8-1-00 at 29 weeks
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franjipani
Sun Mar-19-06 12:31 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1660 posts
#175545, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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indeed. my son just turned four and although he is disobedient in other ways, it is nothing like three.
i remember cruising through two with him thinking, "wow, i must be a better mum than i think, and im pregnant wtih triplets (or have just given birth to) and he's a dream!" and then he turned three and i nearly pulled out the remaining post pregnancy hair left on my head. so no, nick, you're not alone and yes, i promise it gets better.
tess
mummy to 4yr old ds & the triumverate born 2004
"the days are slow but the years fly by quickly"
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ItsOtto
Sun Mar-19-06 01:02 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
554 posts
#175547, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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So what you all are saying is 3's are worse than 2's?????????????
I don't know if I will be able to handle that.
My 2 1/2 year old trio have been evil lately. :OP
Deborah
Mom to
Julia 9/1998
Olivia, Veronica and Isabelle
33 weeks. July 11,2003
(4lb 3oz,3lb 13oz & 4lb 10oz)
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franjipani
Sun Mar-19-06 01:50 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1660 posts
#175550, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 4
...maybe they're just advanced????
xo
tess
mummy to 4yr old ds & the triumverate born 2004
"the days are slow but the years fly by quickly"
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tripplefun
Sun Mar-19-06 01:47 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
960 posts
#175549, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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Yep, terrible 3's are much worse than terrible 2's. DH and I were just talking about this last night. Our trio are now 6 and we still have the hitting each other, sticking out tongue's at us, do not care about punishment, talk back and continually tattling. But its not as bad as it was. We still pick our battles.
Last night we asked the kids to clean up the toy room before we went to bed. I said to the kids, please pick up the toy room so that we can have story time in a half hour. Cade says to his sisters, "that LADY says we need to get this toy room cleaned"!! I said, Lady?? DH was laughing so hard he could'nt talk!! I did NOT find that funny whatsoever!!
It does get better, hang in there. One thing that really bugs DH is they gang up on us and really stick together sometimes. But everyone keeps telling me that 7 will be even better than 6.
Sandy
mom to 4 kids
oldest is 18, and trio age 7
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CindyB
Sun Mar-19-06 07:51 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
401 posts
#175559, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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With my boys, I hated 18 mos to 2 1/2. From then on to 3 it just got better and better. I tell everyone that at 3, the sun came out and at 4 the rainbow came out with it. My triplets are 22mos and I feel the same way with them. I could adopt them out for a few months right now and not miss them terribly. I can't wait until we get to 3.
I think every parent has to go through it at some point. It must be int he handbook. If they don't get you at 2, then they will later.
Cindy
Paul and Andrew
Kristen, Rachel and Michael
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SAM_KEN_MC
Mon Mar-20-06 09:02 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
213 posts
#176080, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 7
Cindy I am so with you. My girls are 21 mos and it is horrible. They fight,whine, hit me, throw things , and just act miserable the majority of time they are awake, Absolutely everything is a fight with them and I don't know how much more I can take. I pray 3 is better than this because I am about ready to leave home. All day I have been thinking about what a terrible parent I am otherwise my kids wouldn't act like this right? Well after reading this post it is nice to know it isn't just me.
Laurie
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CindyB
Tue Mar-21-06 08:08 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
401 posts
#176159, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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Laurie,
No, you are not a terrible parent. I truly think this is the harder age. Mine are fighting all the time, usually over me and my attention, to the point where I have to get up and leave the room to really diffuse the situation. I tell my DH, I feel like a bone being fought over by 3 dogs. With the boys, this was the time when I got a part-time job in retail and worked a couple of nights a week just so I could get away. The closer we got to 3, the more I enjoyed my older boys. Suddenly, we could carry on real conversations. They began to play independently together for long periods of time and if there were problems, we were able to really reason with them. Not that they became angels and never fought, but their bad behaviour decreased a lot. I am so surprised that others find 3 to be difficult because it was at 3 that I really started to like my boys again and then it was even better at 4. My biggest challenge at 4 is answering all the questions. Sometimes I think my head will explode from all the questions, but this is a problem I can deal with happily.
My only advice is what I did with the boys and what I do with my younger three now. Keep on telling them appropriate ways to behave over and over and over again. Get any breaks you can to keep your mental sanity and then sometime between 2 and a half and 3, your hard work should start clicking with them and you should start to enjoy them more. I think it must depend on the parents' personality on which age is harder, so the bad and good news is you get to go through it earlier.
Hang in there.
Cindy
Paul and Andrew
Kristen, Rachel and Michael
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jmomee99
Sun Mar-19-06 08:04 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
746 posts
#175564, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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Age 3 was much worse than 2.
Julie
Mom to: Victoria, Daniel, Jordan 8yrs
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Christina 2yrs
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aeiomommy
Sun Mar-19-06 08:47 AM
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1719 posts
#175572, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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When my trio was 3 I also had a daughter that was 2....who I fast forwarded to 3 so I had 4 that thought they were 3 and it was teh hardest year of my entire life!!!!!I was in tears daily,called the ped daily,called the phych for me and them....started taking....anti depressants and a afternoon happy hour for me.
More times than i can count that year as soon as my husband walked in I locked my self in my room and stayed there for the night.
4 was so much better ...5 was really easy and 6 is a cake walk!
Can't wait to see what 7 brings.
Becky
SAHM~
Emma,Amber,Ian 8/18/99
Olivia 9/29/00
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pooky2749
Sun Mar-19-06 08:46 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
81 posts
#175571, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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Mine are 3 and it has been quite challenging. I. too am hoping the rainbow comes out at 4 because it cannot get any darker around here.
Amy Mom to Julia, Luke and Myles 6/18/02 32w5d Molly 9
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TiffaniRay
Sun Mar-19-06 09:14 AM
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3931 posts
#175574, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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3 1/2 for sure!!! They talk back, hit us throw tantrums and punishment is a joke to them. My dh tells them he is going to put them in jail with the bad guys and they say; "Cool, lock us up!" Positive reinforcement works well with them but it's hard these days to catch them doing something good and when we do, it's hard to talk over them.
CALGON, TAKE ME AWAY (until they're 4, LOL)!!!
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)
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Laurene
Sun Mar-19-06 11:21 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2482 posts
#175605, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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From my previous parenting experience - I find 3 and 13 to be evil ages. They aren't big, they aren't small, they aren't big enough to do big things, they aren't small enough to small things.....gggrrrr! They have opinions about everything and are just hard ages! Terrible twos - PHOOEY! Fierce Threes are so much worse!
Laurene- six including 3 yr old bbg
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RoseMarie
Mon Mar-20-06 02:07 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1810 posts
#175888, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 13
>From my previous parenting experience - I find 3 and 13 to be
>evil ages.
Laurene - I just love your posts!
sorry, but I look back on 3 as such a cute age when I compare it to 7!! They fight MORE now and they get snottier now and I can't blame it on them being 3 y/o!
RoseMarie
mom to the Hooligans 12/21/98
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Laurene
Mon Mar-20-06 07:08 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2482 posts
#176027, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 23
Oh RoseMarie - Your gonna love 13 - seven year olds are just gearing up! LOL Thank heavens we work into these stages gradually.
Laurene- six including 3 yr old bbg
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RoseMarie
Tue Mar-21-06 10:33 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1810 posts
#176201, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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hee hee. We know these 2 dads who have g/g/g triplets! quite honestly, I felt SO bad for them. I mean, I'm sure that teenage boys are their own form of hell but teenage girls are just plain evil (and we can't even figure out why we're evil!). I can just imagine that these their dds will turn 12 y/o and these poor guys (especially as they are gay men with not much experience with the female psyche) will wonder what happened to their sweet girls!
of course, I'm simply speaking as a former evil teenage girl myself who managed to grow up ok (oy, glad that my parents never found out 1/2 the stuff I did!)
RoseMarie
mom to the Hooligans 12/21/98
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bgg trio
Tue Mar-21-06 11:03 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
583 posts
#176212, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 44
My dh actually wanted ggg combo. He definitely did not want bbb. He has this notion that boys are a lot harder to raise and gets into more trouble. I don't agree with his thinking. I told him just b/c he has a sister who is "Miss Perfect" and he and his brother were mischievious doesn't mean anything.
Div
mom of bgg
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Laurene
Tue Mar-21-06 10:41 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2482 posts
#176442, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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At 13, boy/girl, girl/boy - EEEKK! They are all hormone factories! I remember my oldest sitting on the sofa and bursting into tears and her dad said, whats the matter - and she yelled, I DON'T KNOW...!!!! bawling and slobbering....And my second DD was grounded more than not at that time because everything I said to her required some smart answer back. DS at 13 - amazing that my DH married me because thats when we were dating - Dh told me, stop asking him what's wrong as he has no idea. Great advice.
Your friends would make a great sitcom! Maybe they will be rich from it. LOL
Laurene- six including 3 yr old bbg
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Amy5
Sun Mar-19-06 12:05 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
2013 posts
#175613, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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Glad to hear I'm not alone. We are 3 1/2 here and its CRAZY. However, not to dash everyones hopes, but we also have a 41/2 year old, who is not much better (Maybe because he is so close in age to them?) Our just turned 6yo is a piece of cake though
Amy
Mom to:
G 00
B 01
spontaneous BBB 02
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Pumpkin117
Tue Mar-21-06 01:00 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
238 posts
#176252, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 14
Yes, my 6 yr old daughter is a dream as well! She always has been.
Rachel
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shaena4
Sun Mar-19-06 07:52 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
86 posts
#175685, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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It is so nice to know that we aren't the only family experiencing the horrendous three's!!! The past year and a half has definitely been the most challenging so far...the fighting, biting, hitting, sticking out of their tongue, saying words they know they aren't supposed to...the list just goes on and on and on. Ok, 5 more months until 4yrs old...
Shaena
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Jane4
Sun Mar-19-06 08:00 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
364 posts
#175686, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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I could have written your post myself when my kids were age 3. I thought I was lucky and missed the terrible two's, but when age 3 hit I thought I would lose my mind! Mine are almost 8 years old now and each year is easier than the previous one. It is not easy mind you, just easier. Age 4 was the turning point for sure. Just know there is light at the end of the tunnel! They will turn into little people, and not the little munchkins that are driving you nuts! LOL It is a hard stage to get through, but you will make it. Take care. Jane
Jane,
mom to
Joey-10
Meg-7
Danny-7
Reed-7
born at 36 weeks
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Hennetrips
Sun Mar-19-06 09:57 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
539 posts
#175718, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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3333333333333333!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad I'm not alone here!!! Terrible 3's going on here too....also praying day and night for warmer weather. It has been in the 30's with lots of wind making it feel so much colder. It's hard to keep them outside for too long. When they are outside it seems like that is the only time they aren't fighting or getting into something! We are out of the house every morning during the week...story time, speech therapy, preschool... Trying to keep them as busy and active as possible but all the times in between like getting up, getting dressed, down time when I'm trying to prepare meals...forget it!!! Hoping for some changes by age 4!!
Ann...mom to Aidan, Rachel, Conor born 10/2/02.
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steadman6pack
Sun Mar-19-06 10:14 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1337 posts
#175724, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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Oh Nick, I know exactly where you are coming from. We are dealing w/ the same issues here. It really helps so much hearing that others are struggling also.
Beth
Dylan-10
Tommy,Karli,Abby- 10/14/02 32w 2d
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MomOfTrips03
Mon Mar-20-06 09:05 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
535 posts
#175778, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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We are 1 1/2 months away from turning 3 and you people are scaring me. I can honestly say: Our house sounds just like Nick G's and I feel just like Tulip described herself feeling. I coughed it up to Cabin Fever and such but maybe I should really start to realise this may get worse before it gets better! Oh NO! I seriously can't take it anymore.
DH and I have been working on our discipline actions. My DH works VERY hard in a VERY stressful environment ( as well as I do, at home) But it deeply hurts me when he has to come home to this crazzed place with no outlet for a place to relax. This is our life and he and I realise that but it has to be easier and more enjoyable. So, we decide to take harsh discipline actions before it is worse and out of hand. For example:
Everything they get out or throw on the floor, they pick up, no matter how inconvenient this is to us or how long it is gonna take.
I think with discipline as well as many other parts of parenting issues(potty training for example) we have to set aside what is convenient for us as the parents and do what is gonna teach our kids "right and wrong" and what they "can and can't" get away with.
When they do something wrong we need to take the approach of punishment that they are gonna remember, not just say, Don't hit your sister and walk off and finish cleaning up a poop mess ( which seems is all I get done doing all day) But actually punish them, Take away t.v for an hour or don't allow them their favorite snack or sit them in a naughty chair in a isolated place away from others. Whatever works for your house and your kids. Something they are gonna remember and actaully STOP their naughty actions b/c of it.
I don't know, It is doing working GREAT so far at our house and I already feel better today until I read that their actions may get worse when they hit three, Oh Gees! But I think consistency with this will pay off, hopefully before it gets worse!
Better Luck to all of you Too and hopefully Spring is just around the corner.
Mom to almost Irish Quads,
Cade, Gracie, Trinity, Sydney
4-23-03 7/2/04
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lovemy4
Mon Mar-20-06 09:19 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
661 posts
#175784, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Thanks, guys. I'm going to go jump off a bridge now. I thought my 2 1/2 yr old triplets were driving me crazy. Now I know it's just going to get worse. Yippee! We just switched to toddler beds so they don't even sleep anymore!!
Jenni
Proud mom to BBB born 09-02-03 @ 32.2 wks
and 9 yr old big brother
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smitty1
Mon Mar-20-06 01:18 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
330 posts
#175855, "I'm in the minority (m)"
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but I'll take any age other than 20-24 months, when they were too organized to just hide things away or get them distracted, but too immature to stop any behavior. There was biting, shoving, throwing each other off the couch, crying every other minute. It's all been uphill since about age 2 when "no" started to have some impact.
It's funny though cause they are now 5 and really great kids (I'm a little biased, but they really are!). But it still isn't easy - it's still a hassle getting them into the car, in coats, and shoes, and having snacks and working around how tired they will be, etc. We took them to an aquarium this weekend and they had a great time. No crying, no fighting, no whining - but it *still* isn't easy. I thought it would be easier by now, but it still seems like a big effort to get everybody happy and on the same page. We have lots of fun with them, but it is also lots of work.
Jill, with Claire, Jack and Nicholas, 1/22/01
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5KIDS
Mon Mar-20-06 10:30 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
794 posts
#175805, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
By 4.5 my littles were "human" again and now at almost 5 they are wonderful (mostly). From 3 to 4.5 = I met a lady with triplets when mine were adorable 18mo olds and her's were 5. She said that having them from 2.5- 4.5 was pure He@@ but I was in denial. I've thought of her frequently through these years. You are not alone, and it does get better after 4.
Theresa
DD-10
DD-9
GBG- 4.5
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AddingThreeMore
Mon Mar-20-06 02:10 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
370 posts
#175889, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
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I have to say that our three year old is more challenging now than he was at 2. To be fair to him his 3 brothers came along when he was just over 2 1/2, but even so, the defiance etc that I see in him wasn't even a flicker at 2 of what it is now!
I'm glad he'll be close to 6 once our trio hits 3!
Lucy
B 01/03/03
BBB 8/31/05 @ 27 wks 5 dys
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Catw3kittens
Mon Mar-20-06 02:37 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4060 posts
#175908, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Oh my blue warts and stars!! You guys are scaring me!!!
You see, over the past week or so, my kiddos have decided that it is great fun to wrestle and play rough...which then degenerates into someone getting hurt...which then degenerates into someone throwing a deliberate punch or pulling hair...and then, all bets are off.
Even relaxing with them in Mommy's chair has lost its appeal. It's no fun unless you are scooting around digging an elbow or toe into Mommy, or pinching someone or pulling hair...
Yikes. Caeleigh looked like a precious little angel going to Sunday School yesterday morning until, while Mommy made the mistake of pulling on some church clothes and turning her back for just a second, Caidan clocked her with a book. Yep, all $@#% broke loose with screaming and gnashing of teeth, and we wound up twenty minutes late for my Sunday School class and Caeleigh had a large abrasian on her forehead.
I will simply pray that my kids are a bit advanced rather than that this is just a precursor of worse things to come. I left the house this morning with them involved in the wrestling degeneration to "all bets off."
You guys have firmed up my resolve and I am now starching up my petticoats. The naughty chair is working, and the only thing wrong with this discipline technique is what was said by the very wise person who posted about discipline: It is highly inconvenient to enforce immediately and without providing multiple "warnings."
In fact, I find that giving more than one warning is contrary to effective discipline. I have decided to draw a hard line in the sand: You get one warning if you are doing something that you have just begun doing -- so long as it is something that has not hit Mamma's "hit parade." Mamma's "hit parade" includes "hitting and/or pulling hair and/or hurting someone." Also, if you have just gotten off the naughty chair for doing something, if you turn right around and do it again, you get no warning -- you're on the chair.
This morning, little Caeleigh was wrestling with Caidan, and decided that a nice tactic would be "fingers shoved into the eye." Caidan began screaming and I told her to stop. She continued. I grabbed her up and she began kicking and fighting me. Warning?? Heck no!! Straight to naughty chair.
I think we parents need to band together here and encourage each other to become very firm, on-top-of-it disciplinarians. It scares me to think that I could have two 35-pound (by 3 years) toddlers actively trying to beat me up.
AAaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghghghghgghgh!!!!
Cat w/3 Kittens
Caidan, Carina and Caeleigh
Born at 31 weeks, 1/8/04.
It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. In memory of Carina, who was greatly loved.
http://b3.lilypie.com/bDA
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carebears3
Mon Mar-20-06 03:17 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
574 posts
#175926, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Wow you guys are making me worried. My babies are only 7 weeks right now. I'm wondering is this a multiple thing b/c both my older dd and ds were fun at 3 years old. My son had a lot of energy though. For me I though the hard age was 1 to 2 1/2. B/c at 3 you can ask them what they need and play with them.
Cheryl
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bgg trio
Mon Mar-20-06 04:01 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
583 posts
#175952, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 26
I'm glad to hear about kids like your older dd and ds. Mine at 2 1/4 and I was thinking (or hoping) 3 would be easier. I was getting bummed reading the posts about the terrible 3s. Mine already sasses me sometimes and hit each other over the head. They've tried to hit me a couple of times but I am trying to establish to them early on that it's totally not acceptable. One thing I've learned is that children do tell lies. My mom caught one dd in a lie before she was even 2.
Div
mom of bgg
Div
mom of bgg@34w2d
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Agapi
Mon Mar-20-06 03:32 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
417 posts
#175939, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
To me there will never ever be a terrible age. I welcome EVERY day and at night pray that we are all healthy to experience another day together as a family. I am so darn grateful for these babies, I really thank God in every way. I have grown so much patience that there isn't anything they could do that would change the fact that I adore each and every moment with them, even the thougher moments.
With that said, I DO NOT look down on anyone who posted their situation here. This is just MY situation and the way I have chosen to live my life with the babes.
Also, after reading the post on Andrea Yates, if you see my response to that thread, you'll have a little bit of an understanding of why I so strongly feel the way I do.
Again, this is just me.
Agapi
Proud Mommy of
Kaden, Rowen, Kai
BGB 03-22-05
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Russo Trips
Mon Mar-20-06 04:21 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
507 posts
#175956, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 27
You know... I understand your thoughts..but there will be days that are harder than others as your children reach toddlerhood. (Oh, and I have also have been warned about teenagers!)
I don't think that anyone could love their children anymore than I do! Some days are just harder than others and today happens to be one of them!!! I enjoy everyday but, there are many days that are just exhausting!!!! That is how I understood the post.
Even on those days that I am exhausted, I wouldn't change a thing!!!! I Thank God for my children too!!!!!!
Jeanette
Proud mom to Alex, Brooke and Christian
30 weekers 02/20/04
Big Sister, Briannah 01/99
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Agapi
Mon Mar-20-06 04:34 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
417 posts
#175960, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 31
Mon Mar-20-06 04:35 PM by Agapi
As I said, and I quote myself--I DO NOT look down on anyone who posted their situation here. This is just MY situation and the way I have chosen to live my life with the babes.
I truly meant that. Please don't try and burst my bubble. It's just the way I am handling the situation. I am not judging you for your statements. I think that I have a right to post my feelings, period.
Agapi
Proud Mommy of
Kaden, Rowen, Kai
BGB 03-22-05
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Catw3kittens
Mon Mar-20-06 05:26 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4060 posts
#175973, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 27
I very nearly responded to this post in the same manner as you did. Frankly, despite everything else that the kiddos can and will do now and in the future, I delight in my children every single day.
That said, I chose to respond to the "situational" issue that the other posters were raising. I know Nick and Tulip and so many of the gals who have responded and, like you, they treasure and adore their children. I think that all anyone here was saying is that some ages are more challenging than other ages.
BTW, before I had to physically drag Caeleigh off of the top of her brother, as she was attempting to extricate his eyeball from its socket, the two of them were snuggled up in my lap, as sweet as any children could possibly be.
I suspect that your post applies equally to everyone hear who posted about the differences in age... so, you're not at all alone in feeling strongly on this!
Cat w/3 Kittens
Caidan, Carina and Caeleigh
Born at 31 weeks, 1/8/04.
It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. In memory of Carina, who was greatly loved.
http://b3.lilypie.com/bDA
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tulip
Mon Mar-20-06 05:48 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
6141 posts
#175984, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 33
I, too, could have posted about how much I love & adore my children. How hard I worked to get pregnant with them, about the many years we spent trying to conceive, how even trying to get my body surgically ready to bear children almost killed me as a complication from the surgery, and on & on... Goodness, wouldn't that have just made me sound like a saint?
Instead, I chose to answer according to the situation or sentiment expressed by Nick, the OP, just as Cat suggested. Really, what support would I be offering if I talked about how much I love & adore my kids in a thread that obviously was started by a father who is being driven over the edge by kids that I'm sure he loves & adores? It would be no support. It would be like jumping into any other thread where people need to hear support for their current situation & feelings about that situation and talking about how I don't feel that way and could never feel that way because I love my children too much to ever allow myself to feel that way or acknowledge that I feel that way. That would be unsupportive, and it also would not be honest. It's like when people who conceived their children "naturally" say the word "natural", to our faces or in writing, with the unsaid implication that ART children are "unnatural".
Agapi, no one here loves their children in any less of a manner than you love your own. I know that's not what you were trying to say, but it sure felt like that's what you were saying when I read it. Even those of us who went into the dark place that is Infertility Hell to get our children are able to acknowledge that there are times we are filled with rage & despair when things get out of control. It's healthy to acknowledge that your kids are driving you crazy from time to time! It doesn't mean we love our children any less, it doesn't mean anything other than a simple acknowledgement that *at this stage of development*, our kids are pushing us past the brink of reason & self-control.
I hope that when your own children reach the age of ours, you are able to admit on crazy days that you are so upset your head may explode. If you don't at least admit it, your head may very well explode. Or, you could end up like Andrea Yates. She was not allowed to express the frustration she was feeling, and look what happened.
People need to be able to talk about what's happening to them.
Yes, you have the right to express yourself. But maybe this particular thread was not the most supportive place to express yourself.
Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!
YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!
I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.
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MomOfTrips03
Mon Mar-20-06 06:15 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
535 posts
#175995, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 34
Very Well put ladies, cat and tulip,
Mom to almost Irish Quads,
Cade, Gracie, Trinity, Sydney
4-23-03 7/2/04
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Catw3kittens
Mon Mar-20-06 06:58 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
4060 posts
#176021, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 27
I don't want to burst your bubble either, but I think it might be kind of fun to copy your post and paste it onto a computerized calendar that will automatically bring this post up for you to review in about 20 months or so. In looking at the ages of your children I realized that you have not yet gotten a clue about how our delightful and thoroughly adored little babies can behave given all of our tender ministrations, several hundred pounds of food, and about 200 cases of diapers later...
And, hopefully when this pops up on your calendar you'll be able to get a few giggles! I personally find that laughing at myself is sometimes the very best medicine!
Cat w/3 Kittens
Caidan, Carina and Caeleigh
Born at 31 weeks, 1/8/04.
It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. In memory of Carina, who was greatly loved.
http://b3.lilypie.com/bDA
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Nick G
Mon Mar-20-06 08:22 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
820 posts
#176067, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 27
Your post saved my children's lives. I took it out on the dog instead.
Rest in peace, little buddy.
Husband to Tammie
Father of Samantha Nicole, Kayla Shea , and Dominic Paul born on 10/14/02
Step-father to Kristina Nicole born on 09/24/85
Grandfather to Riley Faith born on 5/13/06
Come and see us at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/babies3/index.htm
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RoseMarie
Tue Mar-21-06 12:05 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1810 posts
#176229, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 38
Nick - I nearly spit my lunch out over my computer screen (and considering that I'm eating lentils at work, that would NOT have been pretty!).
Please - you need to come with a warning label!!!
I'm still laughing (but not spitting).
RoseMarie
mom to the Hooligans 12/21/98
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tracypt
Tue Mar-21-06 02:30 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
344 posts
#176290, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 48
Red beans and rice on my screen here! What a hoot!
Tracy
Mommy to Lindsey, Patrick and Brooke
Born 1-14-03 at 32weeks, 3 days and ^i^ twins Dylan 1-12-02 and Cole 1-21-02
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lovemy4
Tue Mar-21-06 09:21 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
661 posts
#176175, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 27
No offense, but you're smack dab in the middle of what I found to be the "golden age" of triplets. When my boys were that age I thought this whole "multiples thing" was a piece of cake. I went through many years of fertility treatments and three miscarriages, not to mention the misery of a very complicated pregnancy, 2 months in the NICU, several imminent death scares for my precious babies to have these children. My babies were exclusively breastfed. I had to pump over 12 hours a day in order to accomplish that. No one loves or appreciates their children more than I do. Maybe in a year or so you'll understand this thread a little better. I'm sorry if this post is a little harsh.
Jenni
Proud mom to BBB born 09-02-03 @ 32.2 wks
and 9 yr old big brother
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Russo Trips
Mon Mar-20-06 03:52 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
507 posts
#175948, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Okay you guys are freaking me out! Since my trio turned two in February and every since then they have become extremely difficult! They climb from their cribs, fight over toys, climb on chairs and JUMP off, open the entertainment center to PLAY with all our sterio equiptment, don't take naps, Yaddda Yadda! I feel like I have lost control?!!! I was really looking forward to three, thinking that it would get easier in 11 short months LOL It is kind of getting me through these really busy days...and now...you guys are telling me three is hard?! YIKES!!!
Jeanette
Proud mom to Alex, Brooke and Christian
30 weekers 02/20/04
Big Sister, Briannah 01/99
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Khrissys3girls
Mon Mar-20-06 04:08 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
541 posts
#175954, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
My girls are 4 1/2 years old now and people always stop me in the store and ask me how I survived the "baby days". HAH!! The baby days are a walk in the park compared to what I have dealt with from age 3 to now. Two was rough, three was scary, and four is horrendous!! I think it does depend on what the sexes of you children are. I have 3 girls that will do anything to beat the living daylights out of eachother. I am constantly playing referree and negotiator. It is all day long. They find anyway, anyhow to get on eachothers nerves (on purpose). At 4 they are more skilled in their thinking and more crafty on being defiant and evil to oneanother. I wake up everyday hoping to be patient with them and hoping they can get along and play nicely. Some days I want to lock myself in the bedroom for 10 minutes for some peace & quiet. Then some days they actually play nice and get along all day. Those are the days that I hope will start to happen more frequently. I know that once we are out of the house and the weather is nice they will be much nicer to eachother and they won't be on eachothers nerves as much.
Khrissys3girls
Mommy to Lindsey, Kaylee, & Carly born 8/30/01 at 31 weeks
AND John Thomas born 1/17/06 at 39w3d
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Agapi
Mon Mar-20-06 08:34 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
417 posts
#176072, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Tulip- WOW! laughable- end up like Andrea Yates- that must be a reflection of how you feel???? (BTW, it doesn't feel good to point fingers, huh?) For you to even say that to me is totally uncalled for!! I should be allowed to respond anyway I choose to any thread as long as I am not rude (as you were just to me) or putting someone down. I simply stated that I am taking ANOTHER approach to those tougher times ahead. Period. I was also clear in saying that I was not looking down on how anyone reponded with their situation.
I think that I am entitled to express my opinion. It's how I have chosen to CURRENTLY live my life. Cat, for you to make that calendar remark, I just don't get it?? Again, I clearly stated that it was my way of handling life, even the tough times.
I DON'T have to agree or have the same experience to respond to this thread. There are no rules. If I want to add my DIFFERENT opinion then I certainly can. It's called freedom of speech. Maybe the original poster appreciate my thoughts, maybe he feels differently.
I'm not taking away any love from you ladies that you have for your kids by stating my love for my babes. Get over it. Often too many women here step on their soap box. Again, my opinion. I'm entitled.
Oh, and you really can't burst my bubble...........lol! Life is too short and too good.
Agapi
Proud Mommy of
Kaden, Rowen, Kai
BGB 03-22-05
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steadman6pack
Tue Mar-21-06 11:17 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1337 posts
#176218, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 39
I just have to agree w/ Tulip and Cat...mark your calender. I'll talk to ya in a couple of years! LOL!!! I can almost guarantee you will be singing a different tune and asking all of us how we handled it.
Trust me babyhood is a walk in the park compared to 3 year olds. Good luck!!
Beth
Dylan-10
Tommy,Karli,Abby- 10/14/02 32w 2d
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RoseMarie
Tue Mar-21-06 12:18 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1810 posts
#176230, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 39
Tue Mar-21-06 12:20 PM by RoseMarie
Agapi - you're right - enjoy your bubble! It's a wonderful wonderful time of your life. And esp if you did have to endure years of IF to get to this point, you certainly owe this amazing feeling.
However, children as they get older ARE difficult and I never EVER got upset with my kids until they turned 2 y/o (and out of cribs btw). And my infertility made me clam up when I was my most stressed because I was afraid that people would tell me "well, YOU wanted them" or "be careful what you wish for". Until I realized that infertility was robbing me of a very normal emotion - stress with my kids! Therefore, when your trio turn 2 or 3 and if you feel the stress that we're all talking about, remember that it's ok to vent. And it doesn't mean that we don't love our children and cherish them above all else. In fact, it means that we love them even more today than we did when they were babies - it take a LOT of love to love 3 hooligans who continually push your buttons and each others 24/7 - now, they are not only 3 adorable, gurgling babies to coo over and change their diapers - they are 3 very different strong minded PEOPLE who NEED my guidance and discipline every day but don't WANT it.
Many days I long for those sleepless nights of their first few months - I was tired but there was something very magical about it. Yes, enjoy it - it's gone too quickly.
now I'm gonna cry!
RoseMarie
mom to the Hooligans 12/21/98
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wilds
Mon Mar-20-06 11:43 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
2594 posts
#176132, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
My nine year olds are not fun for me to deal with a lot of days. I thought eight was really fun- still wanting to cooperate but definately independant enough to do a lot of things on their own.
Nine is typically the age where kids start asserting their independance and get 'attitudes' and mine are being very typical It doesn't help that Braden has been going through so much lately either during the time when kids really want to have more control over things, he has no control over a lot of really crappy things happening to him. He DEFINATELY lets everyone around him know how unhappy he is about it too I feel so bad for him, but can't just cave in to his rages either, that would definately create more of a problem...my husband tends to 'give him what he wants' to keep the peace.....heavy sigh....
Lorraine
Reach for the heart of God and not just His hands.
Organ donation saves lives!
Life happens when love is given.
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ckbea
Tue Mar-21-06 11:26 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
35 posts
#176221, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Brutal 3's are what I called them. About 2-3 months before their 4th birthday I noticed a big change and now we are back to having fun and enjoying each other. (I LOVED the 2's and eveyone had me so freaked out on how aweful it would be)
Chris
BGB 9-2-01
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Pumpkin117
Tue Mar-21-06 12:59 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
238 posts
#176251, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Mine turned 4 in December & I'm still waiting for everything you described to end. My boys are not intimidated at all! I don't know why - it's like they are immune to the punishment. We are at our wits end.
Rachel
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RoseMarie
Tue Mar-21-06 02:20 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1810 posts
#176287, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 50
LOL - Rachel - I hear ya! I mean, I was afraid of my mom - when do I get to be feared?!
RoseMarie
mom to the Hooligans 12/21/98
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5roman
Tue Mar-21-06 04:15 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
350 posts
#176327, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
Yes this winter at 3 and a half, wasn't as much fun as last winter at 2 and a half for sure.
Helps to get out away from the kids for ahwile and then come home refreshed if you can swing it.
Denise
and her trio
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AngelP
Tue Mar-21-06 10:36 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1307 posts
#176439, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 0
I definitely think 3's were much more difficult than 2's. Not sure if it because my boys were speech delays, but when they turned 3 they started talking more and learned how to fuss and throw tantrums. It will get easier. My boys are now 6 yrs old and so much fun. My daughter is 12 almost 13, and sometimes I say she is more difficult than all 3 boys put together. Every age is so different is so many ways. Hope it gets easier for you very soon!
Angel (mom to Justin, Andrew, Brandon 7 yrs, Angie 13 yrs)
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Angelia
Wed Mar-22-06 08:11 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
226 posts
#176778, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 55
thank goodness! I thought mine were the only ones!!! Hopefully things will get better! I guess we just all have to hang in there!
Angelia
mom to bgb oct '02
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tripletmomplus9
Sun Mar-19-06 11:20 AM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
725 posts
#175604, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 60
I would have to say with all our other kids that if there were any challenges they happened with the threes, but I have to admit that the 3's with the trio have not been that bad! They do hit each other occasionally in frustration (usually over a toy), but generally listen and are pretty respectful and still so darn cute...of course they will be four in a month and have banded together and staunchly refused ALL attempts at potty training, so I guess we are paying in other ways!!
Ellyn, the three little Z's(bbb 4/12/02), two littler S's(gb 7/22/04)
and seven other siblings(yes, that's 12!!)
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tripletreat
Wed Mar-22-06 01:33 PM
Member since Nov 05th 2007
269 posts
#176615, "RE: What age was the "terrible" age?"
In response to Reply # 60
I go with you, 11 going on 20, especially for girls. Mine will be 13 in May, and now the girls are being nicer and my boy is starting his attitude fits. Let's see what happen!
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