Sept 24 2007

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baby4love
Mon Sep-24-07 08:53 PM
Member since Aug 09th 2006
5 posts


#301778, "SSI"

Did you know that if your babies are born under 2lbs, 8oz. he/she is entitled to SSI (supplemental Security Income) - at least in California)? My babies were born under 2lbs, 8 oz, and I happened to find the information in a Preemie magazine that was in the NICU. No one told me about it and I had to work hard to get it, but it is worth it and helps out with diapers and gas going to see your babies everyday.
Erica

Mommy to B,G,G - 27 weeks, 3 days
Born: 10/03/06
Due date: 12/30/06

Dalin A.D. 12:30 p.m.
Caliana Ayumi 12:32 p.m.
Kiari Isabella 12:34 p.m.

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RE: SSI, love my kids, Sep 24th 2007, #1
RE: SSI, Pumpkin117, Sep 24th 2007, #4
RE: SSI, nlucey, Sep 25th 2007, #16
RE: SSI, Jenell, Sep 24th 2007, #2
RE: SSI, Pumpkin117, Sep 24th 2007, #6
RE: SSI, Pumpkin117, Sep 25th 2007, #20
RE: SSI, julie123, Sep 24th 2007, #3
RE: SSI, Suzan33, Sep 24th 2007, #5
RE: SSI, alimae, Sep 24th 2007, #7
RE: SSI, julie123, Sep 24th 2007, #8
RE: SSI, madmolly, Sep 25th 2007, #10
RE: SSI, Tasha, Sep 25th 2007, #18
RE: SSI, catybarra, Sep 25th 2007, #22
RE: SSI, love my kids, Sep 26th 2007, #26
RE: SSI, ChelleBelle, Sep 26th 2007, #34
RE: SSI, madmolly, Sep 26th 2007, #42
RE: SSI, pixilee, Sep 25th 2007, #15
RE: SSI, Ralston03, Sep 25th 2007, #9
RE: SSI, momofbbgtriplet, Sep 25th 2007, #12
RE: SSI, madmolly, Sep 26th 2007, #23
RE: SSI, love my kids, Sep 26th 2007, #24
RE: SSI, Rosemarie3, Sep 26th 2007, #30
RE: SSI, TiffaniRay, Sep 26th 2007, #37
RE: SSI, love my kids, Sep 27th 2007, #48
RE: SSI, love my kids, Sep 26th 2007, #25
RE: SSI, momofbbgtriplet, Sep 26th 2007, #27
RE: SSI, kylamel, Sep 26th 2007, #28
RE: SSI, madmolly, Sep 26th 2007, #29
RE: SSI, momofbbgtriplet, Sep 26th 2007, #32
RE: SSI, LRB, Sep 26th 2007, #33
RE: SSI, tripletots98, Sep 26th 2007, #39
RE: SSI, Triplethefun04, Sep 26th 2007, #44
RE: SSI, LolasLadies, Sep 27th 2007, #49
RE: SSI, ChelleBelle, Sep 26th 2007, #31
RE: SSI, kylamel, Sep 26th 2007, #35
RE: SSI, momofbbgtriplet, Sep 26th 2007, #36
RE: SSI, ChelleBelle, Sep 26th 2007, #38
RE: SSI, momofbbgtriplet, Sep 26th 2007, #40
RE: SSI, madmolly, Sep 26th 2007, #41
RE: SSI, LRB, Sep 26th 2007, #43
RE: SSI, momofbbgtriplet, Sep 26th 2007, #45
RE: SSI, momofbbgtriplet, Sep 26th 2007, #47
RE: SSI, jonib, Sep 27th 2007, #50
RE: SSI, kaboom8, Sep 25th 2007, #11
RE: SSI, amlink, Sep 25th 2007, #13
RE: SSI, pixilee, Sep 25th 2007, #14
RE: SSI, TiffaniRay, Sep 25th 2007, #17
RE: SSI, Tasha, Sep 25th 2007, #19
RE: SSI, TiffaniRay, Sep 25th 2007, #21
RE: SSI, kristim81, Sep 26th 2007, #46



love my kids
Mon Sep-24-07 09:34 PM
Member since Aug 13th 2007
7 posts


#301792, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 0

here in ohio if they weigh less then 2.10 they can get ssi.
Grandma to 24 weekers
Preston, Madison and Hayden
Hayden got his wings May 15 07
only 14 months old

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Pumpkin117
Mon Sep-24-07 10:09 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
183 posts


#301800, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 1

I got it for 2 of mine - the other one weighed too much!

It helped out A LOT! No one told us about it either. We didn't find out until the boys were out of the hospital. We had to send in copies of my DH's paychecks every month to determine how much we received. It was usually between $400 & $500 per child.

Rachel

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nlucey
Tue Sep-25-07 09:06 AM
Member since Jul 27th 2007
9 posts


#301849, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 1

I live in Ohio and was wondering how you go about getting information on SSI. I tried one website and it said you had to be over 65, blind, or disabled. Any information you could provide would be great!

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Jenell
Mon Sep-24-07 09:56 PM
Member since May 19th 2007
142 posts


#301796, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 0

In WI too, but there is more to it than just birth weight, there has to be something wrong with them as well! Mine are all healthy thanks GOD for that!

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Pumpkin117
Mon Sep-24-07 10:57 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
183 posts


#301803, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 2

Oh yeah, I was actually GLAD that one didn't qualify! Wished none of 'em had!

Rachel

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Pumpkin117
Tue Sep-25-07 05:40 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
183 posts


#301927, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 2

I'm pretty sure I called our local social security office & they got some information over the phone. In fact I think they set up a time for someone to call me & do an "interview". Then I had to go down to the Federal Building w/ all their info - birth cert. & ss#. I didn't need to take the boys. Lots of paperwork of course!

I remember we had a heck of a time getting the checks to stop coming. I didn't want to get in a situation where we had to pay them back.

We were hoping to automatically be qualified for WIC but we didn't because they did that by income.

Rachel

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julie123
Mon Sep-24-07 10:03 PM
Member since Jun 13th 2006
736 posts


#301798, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 0

SSI is a federal program so the regulations apply the same to each state.

I feel the need to correct the post above.
If the babies are under the listed weight in relation to their gestational age, they DO qualify for benefits. There need NOT be any other medical problems with them.

I know the Social security system, It took 27 months, 7 appeals and 1 federal hearing to get my husband his disability benefits. If anyone needs help, I'm FREE! (as in zero money!!!)
Julie wife to Mark and mom to

Tristan Declan 4lbs 3oz
Cassandra Madison 4lbs 7oz
Ryland Markus 4lbs 2oz
Born on 9/5/06 at 32 weeks 4 days
www.cysticfibrosismaleinfertility.com

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Suzan33
Mon Sep-24-07 10:54 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
829 posts


#301802, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 3

We NEVER qualified for SSI. My babies were born at 24 weeks all weighing just over 1 pound and the could not get SSI. According to all the SSI workers my DH made too much. I appealled 3 times and always got the same answer.

Good luck.

Suzan
g/g/b August 21, 2005
my miracle 24 weekers!!!!
http://lilypie.com>

http://lilypie.com>

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alimae
Mon Sep-24-07 11:03 PM
Member since Oct 13th 2006
136 posts


#301806, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 5

Our 2lb 4oz baby qualified for SSI payments while hospitalized regardless of parental income. When he was released we completed a stack of paperwork and found that we did not qualify based on our income. The benfits are paid on a sliding scale, however, so even if your income is bordeline, you may receive a small payment.
In addition, it is my understanding that if they qualify for any SSI benefits, they automatically qualify for Medicaid.
Alice






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julie123
Mon Sep-24-07 11:45 PM
Member since Jun 13th 2006
736 posts


#301810, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 5

Unfortunately SSI does "run" off of total family income in relation to family size. Although they are required to allow special calculations when you have more than one family member who qualifies for SSI.
Julie wife to Mark and mom to

Tristan Declan 4lbs 3oz
Cassandra Madison 4lbs 7oz
Ryland Markus 4lbs 2oz
Born on 9/5/06 at 32 weeks 4 days
www.cysticfibrosismaleinfertility.com

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madmolly
Tue Sep-25-07 06:41 AM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1686 posts


#301830, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 5

Wow, I am surprised! When I filed for SSI from my smallest (2.7) the rep on the phone laughed at me....out loud! He said that with our incomes we did not qualify. Then about a week later, I received a call from our case worker who said everything was approved and we would be getting monthly checks in the amount of $50.00. She explained to me that income was not a factor in approval based upon federal guidelines. It is weird how people get different information.

Now I can't get my checks to STOP coming. I was told it was only for one year and my kiddo is 19 months now. We still get checks. I have written to them and I have called. Yet each month another check arrives! UGH, I am waiting for them to write me asking for all that money back....
Lea

BGG 28.3 weekers

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Tasha
Tue Sep-25-07 03:01 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1403 posts


#301906, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 10

Ear mark the money Lea just in case. That DID happen to another lady here. I believe to the tune of several thousand that they had to come up with. She was completely unaware that she shouldn't be getting the checks anymore until they asked for all this money back. It was something like $130/mo a child she was getting for her quads for a year. (why do I remember these things? but don't quote me on the details.)
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02

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catybarra
Tue Sep-25-07 09:19 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
705 posts


#301960, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 10

I am right there with you, Lea. I called the day they were discharged and told them. I still got two more checks for all three. I waited on hold, for an hour, and told them AGAIN that all three were discharged (we make too much to remain on SSI) and they cancelled Robert's. I still get 2 checks a month for $30. I get Medicaid on the two that are still on SSI, but I know I shouldn't. I called AGAIN and told them, and they told me that I get it (duh) but they couldn't figure out why either. Then they told me to expect a call from my local office (that never happened). Now that it's been over 2 years I am a bit scared of when they come back and tell me I owe that money lol. We haven't had to use the medicaid except for Matthew's braces this summer. That was $3200. I guess it's a waiting game. I can't afford to keep calling and sitting on hold forever.
Cathy


Come visit us at http://www.leighaandthetriplets.blogspot.com/

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love my kids
Wed Sep-26-07 01:51 PM
Member since Aug 13th 2007
7 posts


#302062, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 10

looks like you are using the system too.
Grandma to 24 weekers
Preston, Madison and Hayden
Hayden got his wings May 15 07
only 14 months old

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ChelleBelle
Wed Sep-26-07 03:50 PM
Member since Sep 20th 2006
305 posts


#302093, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 26

How is she using the system too? By saying "too" does that mean in addition to your family? How is she using the system when she calls them to cancel but the government is so overwhelmed with providing handouts to anyone who can figure out a way to jump through the loopholes they can't keep track of those that don't need/want it?

For someone who didn't give birth to triplets and has no experience with SSI other than your daughter, maybe you shouldn't make comments on a thread like this.

Unless you're trying to start something?





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madmolly
Wed Sep-26-07 04:53 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1686 posts


#302118, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 26
Wed Sep-26-07 05:26 PM by madmolly

Months of checks have gone uncashed for this very reason.

However, I would love to offer a compromise. I'll trade those $50.00 monthly checks for a pardon on the SSI taxes taken from my husband's check. For his last TWO WEEK paycheck, they collected $301.75 for SSI. WOW!!! Over six hunderd dollars a month to SSI and I received a whopping $50.00 check.

Yep, you got me. I am a drain on the system. Boy, you sure know how to spot 'em!

(Edited to add: I stand corrected by Giddysmom or Jacsmom here on TC. Apparently it's not my SSI taxes that contribute to government aide. I guess it's my income tax. I won't bore you all with the details, but I am sure you can imagine how much we pay on that! LMAO!!!)
Lea

BGG 28.3 weekers

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pixilee
Tue Sep-25-07 08:54 AM
Member since Oct 25th 2005
1313 posts


#301846, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 5

Suzan, they tried to tell us this first. Fortunately, the social worker at the hospital told us up front that we would have to tell them we knew during hospitalization income didn't matter. When I called SS office, our case worker tried to tell us we didn't qualify, I told her I knew we did, she asked her supervisor, and ta da, we got our SSI.
Jonna

Daylan 13
Austin 9
Abegail (Stillborn Angel 4/16/05)
Jackson, Ella, Landon 1/10/06 @ 27 wks



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Ralston03
Tue Sep-25-07 12:29 AM
Member since Jun 23rd 2006
222 posts


#301812, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 0

All three of our boys qualified for SSI while they were in the hospital. We received $30.00 per boy for each month they were hospitalized. Jacob lost his benfits at 6 months once the "system" finally caught with our informing them he was discharged at 2 months of age. Samuel and Noah still receive SSI because they are considered "loophole" babies even though they were dischargd after 71 days and 133 days. They were below a certain birthweight for their gestational age. We had to go through the family income verification and then "appeal" to continue their benefits based on the "loophole". We still only get $30.00 per month but it a start on their savings account.

The better piece of the SSI benefits is that if your baby qualifies for SSI they automatically qualify for State Medicaid benefits. Since we have primary insurance the State Medicaid insurance is a supplemental insurance and covers all of our copays for Noah and Samuel.

Finally, if the babies qualify for State medicaid insurance, they automatically qualify for WIC. NONE OF THIS IS BASED ON YOUR FAMILY INCOME. We received 25 bottles of NeoSure RTF per boy per month from the time they were six months until they turned 12 months. Now, we get the equivalent of 4 gallons of milk per boy each month. And because we have two boys that qualify for WIC based on receiving Medicaid, Jacob qualifies b/c he is a related sibling (I still dont understand how this works but not going to look a gift horse in the mouth).

Bottom line it is well worth the hassle of dealing with the Social Security Administration to get the SSI benefits because of the other benefits that it allows your family to access.

T.L. (SAHD)

Our Priceless Trio!
Jacob - 2lb 15oz
Noah - 1lb 8 oz
Samuel - 1lb 15 oz

DOB: 8/9/06 at 28+1


www.caringbridge.org/visit/ralstontriplets

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momofbbgtriplet
Tue Sep-25-07 08:05 AM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
734 posts


#301839, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 9

All three of mine got SSI when we were in the hospital cause of low birth weight. It was like 30 dollars a month for each of them. When we got home I was able to get it raised and then I got back pay money from the day they were discharged so that was nice. My kids still get it and probbly will for awhile. Preston has cerebral palsy and profound hearing loss so I know he can stay on it. Maddie is still delayed a little but not by much so she probbly won't be on it long. We get medical card also for the kids. I can't work since they were born so early. I probbly could go part time right now in the evenings when scott is home but if we make to much then we don't get as much for our checks so what is the point of working outside the home. They do go by income i have to send in scott's pay stubs everymonth. We also get WIC cause they are on medical card. It hurts now that Hayden passed away cause we lost his money also. I am busy all the time it seems like doing stuff with the kids for doctors appts and stuff that i don't feel i have time to work. Like I said like many of you I am sure that my kids aren't aloud in daycare and it wouldn't pay for me to work if i have to put them in daycare. It is to much money and i don't have any kind of degree to get a good job. Sorry to ramble on so much




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madmolly
Wed Sep-26-07 12:43 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1686 posts


#302042, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 12

"I probbly could go part time right now in the evenings when scott is home but if we make to much then we don't get as much for our checks so what is the point of working outside the home."

And that is the exact mentality that is draining our welfare system. Yikes! You work so that YOU support YOUR children. Just my opinion...(and my pocket book).
Lea

BGG 28.3 weekers

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love my kids
Wed Sep-26-07 01:47 PM
Member since Aug 13th 2007
7 posts


#302060, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 23

you need to keep your thoughts to yourself. My daughter dose not live off of the system. these babies need their mom at home she is busy with therapies out of town appointments. so back off your kids probley dont have health issues, and im glad they dont. untill you have walked in her shoes shut up.
Grandma to 24 weekers
Preston, Madison and Hayden
Hayden got his wings May 15 07
only 14 months old

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Rosemarie3
Wed Sep-26-07 02:45 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1229 posts


#302077, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 24



Hello. I believe most of us on here have a right to say something as we did give birth to triplets as well, did you not notice that. you are the grandmother, you are the one that has not even come close to walking a mile in her shoes.

I qualified for ssi, medicade and wic, I made the decesion not to accept any of them, as there are to many out there that truely need the help. Unlike myself, I am able to work and support my children.
BBG Triplets Born March 31, 2004
31 weeks three days
Douglas
Kalie and
John Michael

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TiffaniRay
Wed Sep-26-07 04:02 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
3843 posts


#302100, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 24

Wanda,

That is uncalled for. I am posting because before being accused of removing posts I want Jeff & Janet to see your true colors. For a long time in months a valid and informative subject is being discussed peacefully and BAM, there you are with yet another screen name. I believe this time your IP will be banned. You were removed by Jeff a few times for outburst like these. And YES, I PM'd you but you have yet to acknowledge me. I figured you have so much time on the forum you will see this.

I apologize in advance for Wanda's post and it will be removed by the webmaster himself.

Thank you!
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)



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love my kids
Thu Sep-27-07 12:02 AM
Member since Aug 13th 2007
7 posts


#302243, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 37

pull the fuc@@@g thing i dont give a ####.
Grandma to 24 weekers
Preston, Madison and Hayden
Hayden got his wings May 15 07
only 14 months old

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love my kids
Wed Sep-26-07 01:47 PM
Member since Aug 13th 2007
7 posts


#302061, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 23

you need to keep your thoughts to yourself. My daughter dose not live off of the system. these babies need their mom at home she is busy with therapies out of town appointments. so back off your kids probley dont have health issues, and im glad they dont. untill you have walked in her shoes shut up.
Grandma to 24 weekers
Preston, Madison and Hayden
Hayden got his wings May 15 07
only 14 months old

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momofbbgtriplet
Wed Sep-26-07 02:00 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
734 posts


#302066, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 23

Madmolly i don't know what you have against me and I really don't give a damn. I worked until I had the kids. The kids have therpey 3 days a week we are out of town at least 2 times a month for all day appts. I am sorry I would rather be at home so I know who is taking care of my kids I don't just trust anyone. If you forget my kids were born very early and had alot of problems. Yes they are getting better thank God but they still have some problems. I am not lazy i don't have several kids I have three one in heaven and the other two i am taking care of. I don't know were you live but maybe you have more job offers then we do we live in a smaller town that dosen't have much at all. I know how fast a kid can get taken away from you and I would rather spend the next couple of years with my kids. If that is a problem to damn bad. I worked since I was 16 until i was 24 so it isn't like i never worked and my husband works. We just need some extra help so what is the big deal. Why do you care i guess some people think they have to say something to everyone's post. By the eay i have never done anything to you so back off. I am not sure why I am even explaning myself to you cause you aren't nobody and by the way I am sure your crap stinks just like everyone else so back off, oh and get a life.




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kylamel
Wed Sep-26-07 02:15 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1617 posts


#302069, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 27

"It hurts now that Hayden passed away cause we lost his money also."

I am truly sorry for the loss of your precious Hayden, and I could not imagine the pain you went through, but this statement seems really cold and odd to me.

I am going to have to agree with Lea, YOU stated that you "could probly" work so then you should probably work and let others who truly require public assistance benefit from it. I dont think that she has anything personally against you, probably just has an issue with anyone taking advantage of our welfare system (as do I).

Hey Wanda - why are you back here? I thought you made your grand exit a couple of months ago?




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madmolly
Wed Sep-26-07 02:21 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1686 posts


#302071, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 27

I am sorry if I offended you.

Please understand, your post said that you "could" go get a job but that didn't see the point, as it would reduce government support. Your post did not say that your children's needs make a part-time job impossible. Your post did not say that your town is too small and therefore obtaining employment was impossible. You said that you "could" go get a job, in the evenings, when the biological father is home to oversee care of the children in common. I don't think my post was out of line, however, if it offended you then I apologize.

Likewise, it offends me that so much of our paychecks are given to those who find it easier to sit at home and collect a check then to support the very children they created. I am alone most of the time with my six children so that my husband can work waaaaaayyyyy too many hours to support our family. We make considerable sacrifices. And a good portion of that sacrafice goes to pay for those who chose to stay home and raise their children on our dime. I am not passing judgement on you specifically, one way or another. I am simply stating that the quote I pulled directly from your post is the exact reason that so many people make the choice to stay home, not take that extra job, and pass their financial requirements on to those who are working.
Lea

BGG 28.3 weekers

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momofbbgtriplet
Wed Sep-26-07 03:37 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
734 posts


#302089, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 29

For whoever said something about me saying it hurts us that we lost Hayden's money that is not how i meant it and you know it. It hurts us cause in a blink of an eye we lost his money we were not expecting it at all. It is just like any of you losing your job or your husbands job that helps supports your family today. I know how that jobs are doing out there and I bet more then one of you have had a job loss that hurt your family. I don't have a degree so my jobs are limted. Someday I would like to go back to school but that takes money also. It hurts me alot more that I lost my son believe me I would rather have my son with me right now then any amount of money. Money isn't everything. We struggle to make ends meet with help. I meant earlier if I go to work we will lose part of our benfits that we can not afford to lose. I don't mean that I abuse the system and I really don't think I do. I will go back to work. I am just not sure right now would be a good time and I really think it would be to much on me. I am still having a very hard time dealing with Hayden's death. It takes all I have some days to take care of my kids let alone go and deal with idiots out in the work force. I am sorry if my last post offened anyone. I as all of you would do anything for our children and right now I feel the best place for me at this moment is at home with them. Preston is just getting use to hearing aids and leg braces. My husband is a very good dad but lets face it most of the moms on here I am sure take care of all the doctor appts and everything that is going on with your children. That is me Scott is home in the evenings but I am not sure he gets it all the time on what the kids actually need. I guess I do not feel I am hurting the system my husband works like I said and we are trying to make ends meet. When the time is right and everything is going okay I am going to go back to work. I am not someone who is going to have 15 kids and live off the system just right now we need the help. If my kids would of been born later on I might already be back to work since maybe we wouldn't be going through the problems we are going through.

jaclyn




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LRB
Wed Sep-26-07 03:40 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
981 posts


#302090, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 29
Wed Sep-26-07 04:10 PM by LRB

I can't remember the last time I jumped into one of these debates, but today, I just can't help myself. On one hand, I am glad that we have safety nets in place to provide aid to those who truly need it. On the other hand, I am amused by the logic some use to justify being the victim of circumstances so they deserve the aid they receive.

To say, and I quote:
"I probbly could go part time right now in the evenings when scott is home but if we make to much then we don't get as much for our checks so what is the point of working outside the home. ... We also get WIC cause they are on medical card. It hurts now that Hayden passed away cause we lost his money also. I am busy all the time it seems like doing stuff with the kids for doctors appts and stuff that i don't feel i have time to work. ...it wouldn't pay for me to work if i have to put them in daycare. It is to much money and i don't have any kind of degree to get a good job."

This is absolutely a slap in the face to so many families within our community - think about 1) moms and dads who make sacrifices every day so that they can have a stay at home parent without the assistance of the federal/state government. 2) What about those who work opposite shifts or nights and weekends just to barely make ends meet. 3) And to put the loss of a child in the same sentence as the loss of his "money" - it takes my breath away and leaves me speechless...4) While I agree that not everyone is college material, it behooves me to think that there are many, many, many people working and paying off student loans each day - thankful for their job - but also paying into a system that is paying someone not to work because they are too busy with appointments and don't have a degree. And then there are the stay at home moms who are also college students...and the list goes on!

I am truly compassionate for those in need, especially those with children with special needs and I hope that assistance remains available to those who truly need it, but the situation you describe is over the top for me!

Robin

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tripletots98
Wed Sep-26-07 04:05 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1312 posts


#302104, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 33

>To say, and I quote:
> "I probbly could go part time right now in the evenings when
>scott is home but if we make to much then we don't get as much
>for our checks so what is the point of working outside the
>home. ... We also get WIC cause they are on medical card. It
>hurts now that Hayden passed away cause we lost his money
>also. I am busy all the time it seems like doing stuff with
>the kids for doctors appts and stuff that i don't feel i have
>time to work. ...it wouldn't pay for me to work if i have to
>put them in daycare. It is to much money and i don't have any
>kind of degree to get a good job."
>
>This is absolutely a slap in the face to so many families
>within our community - think about 1) moms and dads who make
>sacrifices every day so that they can have a stay at home
>parent without the assistance of the federal/state government.
> 2) What about those who work opposite shifts or nights and
>weekends just to barely make ends meet. 3) And to put the
>loss of a child in the same sentence as the loss of his
>"money" - it takes my breath away and leaves me
>speechless...4) While I agree that not everyone is college
>material, it behooves me to think that there are many, many,
>many people working and paying off student loans each day -
>thankful for their job - but also paying into a system that is
>paying someone not to work because they are too busy with
>appointments and don't have a degree.
>
>I am truly compassionate for those in need, especially those
>with children with special needs and I hope that assistance
>remains available to those who truly need it, but the
>situation you describe is over the top for me!
>
>Robin

Thank you Robin!!! I have been wanting to state my opinion on the statements you quoted above but I just couldn't find the right words....until I found YOURS! Right On Robin, Right On!!!!

Amy~
Paige, Austin & Hailee - 8yrs
10/29/98 34w1d

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Triplethefun04
Wed Sep-26-07 05:35 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
254 posts


#302125, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 39

Well said Robin!



Michelle
(formerly known as bsebllmom9 )
Tyler 16.5
Steph 14.5
Ayden, Ryley & Dylan 2.5 years!



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LolasLadies
Thu Sep-27-07 12:24 AM
Member since Apr 26th 2007
321 posts


#302246, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 33

Wow, Robin, you read my mind!

SSI is ideally for the people who need it, not the people who are inconvenienced without it. It is not a replacement for a paycheck, nor is it an excuse to avoid work. I don't mean to sound condescending - there's just no polite way to put it!

Jaclyn - If you're too emotionally unstable to go back to work, that's a whole other issue. I hope you are able to get healthy and enjoy interaction with others again. It sounds like (from all of your posts) you are struggling with the emotional aspects of going back to work as well as not seeing the financial benefits. When you are well, I hope that you consider challenging yourself to take employment - it may make you feel better in the long run.
Lola's GGG 28-weekers:
Whiner, Whiner Jr., and Whinerette

The world's least triplet-related triplet blog: http://sweetenedtaters.blogspot.com

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ChelleBelle
Wed Sep-26-07 03:34 PM
Member since Sep 20th 2006
305 posts


#302088, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 12

I am glad some others spoke up, I thought I was taking this personally. To publicly proclaim that you could work but it would affect your assistance income and to say it hurts financially that your son died is something that is very difficult to swallow. Especially for those of us struggling to make ends meet without government help, sacrificing our own wants and needs to meet our children's. I go to doctors appointments, I've had specialists needed for my children, I've had one in the hospital while two are home, I have no help other than my DH who must work so we can eat and I live in a very expensive part of the country. I don't think that you can use those as justifiable reasons. If you're going to post that you would rather take tax payer money than work, then I think you should accept the responses to those that struggle without it so they can support you. We can't even sell our house due to the market right now and move to a less expensive area - but atleast we're trying to do whatever we can to cut corners and provide for our children.





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kylamel
Wed Sep-26-07 03:54 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1617 posts


#302095, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 31


Jaclyn, I think that you need to stop and think before you type or reread what you type. You wrote: <"It hurts us cause in a blink of an eye we lost his money we were not expecting it at all. It is just like any of you losing your job or your husbands job that helps supports your family today.>

I would be devasted because in a blink of an eye I LOST MY SON!!! Not my son's SSI??!!??!

Anyway.. I dont have a college degree and I manage to work part time and make decent money. There are many people without a college degree.. heck even without a high school diploma who maintain decent jobs so that is really no excuse.




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momofbbgtriplet
Wed Sep-26-07 04:00 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
734 posts


#302098, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 31

I don't live in a very expensive part of the country. I am sitting here right now in a pair of jeans that are tore so my kids get what they need. I have had one in the hospital and two at home a couple of different times. We live over an hr away from the hospital. I don't take tax payer money the other night when I wrote that other post was having a better night. Most nights I do not. i don't like going out in public anymore and being around others. Then having to answer the question a millon more times on how many kids i have then having to tell them that i have triplets but one is in heaven. I hate it i have not been able to accept Hayden's death and i am not sure when i will be able to. I own one pair of jeans. I don't buy me or my husband anything unless we need it thank you very much. We cut corners we have one car so while my husband works during the day he has the car. Everyone does have their right to be heard but I think you guys are jumping on me for no reason at all. Go after the people that have several kids and do sit on their ass all day and not do a damn thing and yet their kids still don't have the stuff they need. For another thing we were paying on a house that we could not live in for over a year plus rent. We couldn't live in the other house cause it had a fireplace and the kids could not be around it cause of their lungs. It took us awhile to get rid of it and we just did. So I have been paying two house payments so my kids can live in a safer house for them. You all know I did not mean how it sounded about losing Haydens money and I am sorry if it came out wrong like I said earlier I would rather have him back. My husband dosen't have a very good paying job cause their is nothing around here right now. He works 40 plus hrs most weeks for 8.50 a week plus pays out a 100.00 dollars a week in child support for his oldest son. We are doing everything we can right now I feel right now going back to work would hurt my kids and I more. I don't know why i keep trying to explain myself to you guys cause it really is not worth it.




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ChelleBelle
Wed Sep-26-07 04:04 PM
Member since Sep 20th 2006
305 posts


#302103, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 36

But then why did you say this:

"I probbly could go part time right now in the evenings when scott is home but if we make to much then we don't get as much for our checks so what is the point of working outside the home."





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momofbbgtriplet
Wed Sep-26-07 04:23 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
734 posts


#302107, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 38

Gee i thought i just explained that. I meant if we lose our health insurance we are in trouble. i can not afford to lose it and if you make to much money you lose it. that is what I meant. I don't have hundreds of extra dollars a month so my children can get the therpey they need and the meds. I want to work and someday when the time is right i will. My husbands work does not offer insurance. Like many places are doing these days. I wouldn't care if my husband and I don't have insurance and most of the time we don't but right now we do need it for stuff that i would rather not go into right now. Some of you don't have the slightest idea of what we have been through. I know we are all parents of triplet and some of us have more kids also. I am happy for all of you that have a perfect life and everything just goes so good for you. i have been blessed in other ways that you all don't understand. I have watched my kids fight for their lifes like alot of you have. I watched hayden do so much and he taught me so much in his 14 months that you all wouldn't understand. He was my angel and I am so happy that I was chosen to be his mommy and I would give my own life if it could to keep my son here. But their are other plans for him and I know someday I will be with him again. Their are days i wish it would hurry up and come cause of the hurt I feel for losing him. You don't know what all we have been through and I know I don't know what you all have been through, and if you have been through hard times or are going through them I am sorry and I hope you get the relief that you need. But my husband and I both work really hard to get what we have. Even if it is with some help. I would do it all over again.




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madmolly
Wed Sep-26-07 04:47 PM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
1686 posts


#302114, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 40

For the record, my perfect life included no health insurance for my 28 weekers from birth until the 24th of June this year (16 months of their lives). We have struggled terribly to pay for oxygen supplies for my O2 dependent child, as well as his therapy. With oxygen issues, developmental concerns, hospital visits, muscle developement concerns, and long term health needs as a result of Hypoxemia, we have bills that loom over us considerably. With my other two, I have a SIDs child who goes to therapy and one with an open PDA (at 19 months) that we had not had the financial means to afford her necessary surgery until now. I also have three other children, one of whom has considerable medical needs as well.

My point? We all have our difficulties. I would not liken the loss of government support to that of a lost job. It's so entirely different that it pains me you see a similarity. I will continue to swin in medical debt, continue to manage my six children at home while I work a part-time job after DH gets off, and pay OUTRAGEOUS taxes to help financially support others. I just think the blantant entitlement demonstrated in your post is appalling.
Lea

BGG 28.3 weekers

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LRB
Wed Sep-26-07 05:05 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
981 posts


#302120, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 40

I think it is time to take a break and quit trying to explain yourself because you are making it worse.

Our hearts go out to you. There are many here who can provide emotional support to you. No one should lose a child, but as new and raw as the pain might be, there are several among us who have lost a child so you are not alone in that. You are also not alone with having children in therapies that are within an hour of your home. Many have traveled great distances requiring airplanes and hotels to get the medical intervention that their children need. There are many here who will share their experiences and support you as you find your way with your children. I truly hope that you receive the support - both intangible from others who have experience with the same issues as you, as well as tangible from professionals who can help your kids overcome their difficulties related to their prematurity.

Your posts still come across with a sense of entitlement because of your circumstances that sounds offensive and by trying to justify it at the expense of those who were able to overcome the need for it.

Robin

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momofbbgtriplet
Wed Sep-26-07 05:37 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
734 posts


#302127, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 43

This is her DH. Granted this became a war of words, but why didn't anybody as for her to clarify instead of attacking?

What is going on here is what it is. I am not going to defend us since everybodies opinions are what they are. It is great that some of you can do it on your own. We aren't able to right now, but it doesn't mean we are not trying to change that.

Thank You for your time




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momofbbgtriplet
Wed Sep-26-07 07:12 PM
Member since Aug 08th 2006
734 posts


#302161, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 45

I am sorry if I do come across wrong I do not mean to at all. I don't judge people by what they do in their lifes and we do try. I don't want to be on government support and hopefully soon we won't be. Like my husband said right now we can't do it without help. I don't understand why it is such a huge problem if we do get help right now. I don't do it lightly and I don't like being on it anymore then anyone, but i feel if it is going to help my children then we need it. I know I don't know all of your guys lifes but you all don't know all of mine either. We all have secerts that no one knows. I did not mean to come across whatever you all said and I am trully sorry. I just meant right now it has only been 4 months since we lost Hayden and right now mentally I do not think I could handle the work force. Their is not much in our town for second shift part time unless it is in retail and I am not sure if I could deal with the people. I love working with people but right now I really don't think it would be good idea.




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jonib
Thu Sep-27-07 07:10 AM
Member since Oct 11th 2005
671 posts


#302269, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 47

J,

I know you must still be grieving your loss and everyone here certainly understands that. I agree with pp about not trying to explain your situation as everyone has various opinions on working, not working, what is a struggle and what is an entitlement. It's a hot topic across the country, not just on a message board.

In this case, and again, this is my opinion...you make a a post about whatever and then your mother comes on here A LOT and stirs up drama, get's mad, leaves, comes back, wants sympathy and the cycle goes on. Maybe ya'll could help each other a little bit by having her not stir the pot and find a more healthy outlet for her anger/sadness/frustration.

good luck!
Jonib
Abby, Andy and Caroline will be TWO Nov. 20th!!

Rhett turns 10 in December!

no, I can't get the lily pie to work

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kaboom8
Tue Sep-25-07 07:59 AM
Member since Aug 04th 2006
162 posts


#301837, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 0

my girls were born at 28weeks one at 1pd 7oz and the other two at 2pds. We got 30.00 dollars while they were in the hosiptal we they came home I went to the bank on day to look at my account for whatever reason and the clerk showed me that I just got 636.00 for each kid. I was surprized and happy. We have three other kids besides the triplets. Well it was for only 1 month, then S.S. said that my dh made to much. I couldn't believe it. I tried to get more and telling the S.S that we have a family of eight now. They wouldn't do anything we couldn't even get wic. The only thing we have is a second insurance for the girls which is nice. this is from P.A. state but I'm moving next month to Ohio and I'm going to try there for S.S what do you think are my chances of getting anything or is it the same in each state. thanks Stacey

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amlink
Tue Sep-25-07 08:10 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
571 posts


#301840, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 11

The income requirements for WIC are the same in every state, with the exception of Alaska, I believe.

I don't know about SSI...the income guidelines may change by state depending on the Cost of Living. You can probably look on the SS webpage.

Alice
GGG born 9/3/05 at 35w3d

http://lilypie.com>

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pixilee
Tue Sep-25-07 08:51 AM
Member since Oct 25th 2005
1313 posts


#301845, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 0

We are in CA and were told by the social worker at the hospital the day after they were born. We only qualified for SSI during their hospital stay. Once they came home the money stopped.

It is not retroactive, so any of you expecting moms need to know that it doesn't start until you call and get a case started. You will even need to ASK that it start from the date you call.
Jonna

Daylan 13
Austin 9
Abegail (Stillborn Angel 4/16/05)
Jackson, Ella, Landon 1/10/06 @ 27 wks



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TiffaniRay
Tue Sep-25-07 09:41 AM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
3843 posts


#301855, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 14

Isn't funny even though SS is federal, everyone gets different info?!?

Here's my story:

First let me start by saying I started the application process BEFORE I had them and called them the day I had them. My trio were born at 32 weeks. Gabbi was only 2.2lbs. Boys were 3.4 and 3.12. Hospital case worker said Gabbi qualified and don't even bother with the boys. So, I went to SS to do paperwork. My SS caseworker asked about the boys and I told him what the hospital said. He said BS, bring me their stuff to include medical records. He said the decision was up to the doctor's not the hospital caseworker. Turns out all 3 qualified. Gabbi for LBW, Aidan for Severe Reflux and Nolan for pneumothorax. He went based off of dh's income BUT he divided it by 3. So for example say dh made $9,000 that month it would be $3,000 income for each baby, make sense?

I had an awesome case worker so take that into account as well.
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)



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Tasha
Tue Sep-25-07 03:11 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
1403 posts


#301909, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 17

Wow. I didn't find out about it until the kids were a month old. I started the application process while they were in the NICU (called from the phone next to their little isolette). But they didn't finish processing until they were home. Only one qualified because of birth weight she was 2.10oz Her sister was 2.10 1/2oz but those extra grams put her over the limit. She got $30 a month for a year.
Tasha
Julia, Megan & Alex 7/00 at 30 weeks
Abby 12/02

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TiffaniRay
Tue Sep-25-07 06:25 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2005
3843 posts


#301935, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 17

I forgot to add that since they got SSI they automatically got Medicaid in return qualified us for WIC. They received this all up until their 2nd birthday.
Tiffani & Ray(NJ)



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kristim81
Wed Sep-26-07 05:54 PM
Member since Nov 24th 2006
436 posts


#302130, "RE: SSI"
In response to Reply # 0

We were told we make too much money to qualify. (Illinois)

Our babies were 1lb 13oz, 1lb 14oz, 2lb 3oz.
Kristi
26 weekers born April 9, 2007
http://www.krististrio.blogspot.com



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