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Wanting3
Sat Dec-17-05 05:53 AM
Member since Dec 17th 2005
1 posts


#151435, "How may to put back to get triplets?"

Hello I have been a lurker here for a little while. I don’t
have triplets yet but I am hoping soon. My husband and I
have been TTC for 5 years with no success. we have recently
moved and met with a new RE to start IVF. I have always been
fascinated with and feel I would make a great mother to
triplets. In reading recently I see that there are others
who have done IVF expressly trying for triplets also. I was
hoping I could get a few questions answered from you. What
is the optimal number of embryos to put back to increase the
chances to get 3 to implant? I know there are no garantees
but I want the best chances posible. Is putting 3 back best
or is it better to put back 4 in case one doesn’t implant?
We have have male factor infertility so I think my chances
are high. Also did you discuss you desire for triplets with
your doctor? Was he supportive in helping achieve your end
goal or did he discourage you? I have not discussed this
with my doctor yet because I am afraid he will try to talk me
out of it and be discouranging. Would discussing it with my
doctor increase my chances?

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RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, CrankyDad, Dec 17th 2005, #1
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, tlyman, Dec 17th 2005, #2
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, LW Trips2005, Dec 17th 2005, #3
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, HeatherJ513, Dec 17th 2005, #4
I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M READING THIS, joy of three, Dec 17th 2005, #5
RE: I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M READING THIS, Jen., Dec 17th 2005, #7
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Jen., Dec 17th 2005, #6
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, fivenelli, Dec 17th 2005, #9
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, lovemy4, Dec 17th 2005, #8
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Erikall, Dec 17th 2005, #10
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, 5roman, Dec 17th 2005, #11
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, karenms50, Dec 17th 2005, #12
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, lodyp, Dec 17th 2005, #13
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, bsebllmom9, Dec 17th 2005, #14
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, boomom, Dec 17th 2005, #15
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, MSTAR, Dec 17th 2005, #16
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Colette, Dec 17th 2005, #18
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Party of 5, Dec 17th 2005, #17
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Tasha, Dec 17th 2005, #19
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, bsebllmom9, Dec 17th 2005, #20
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Jen., Dec 17th 2005, #21
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, queenbee, Dec 17th 2005, #22
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, bsebllmom9, Dec 17th 2005, #27
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, bgg trio, Dec 17th 2005, #23
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, peanutsmomma, Dec 17th 2005, #24
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, kylamel, Dec 17th 2005, #25
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Lots_of_fun, Dec 17th 2005, #26
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, 9weekcounting, Dec 17th 2005, #28
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, Megan Welfare, Dec 17th 2005, #30
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, momoftreasures, Dec 17th 2005, #29
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, kappy03, Dec 18th 2005, #37
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, GOVOLSGIRL, Dec 18th 2005, #31
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, tulip, Dec 18th 2005, #32
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, kylamel, Dec 18th 2005, #33
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, CrankyDad, Dec 18th 2005, #34
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, TripleScoop, Dec 18th 2005, #35
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, CrankyDad, Dec 18th 2005, #36
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, joy of three, Dec 18th 2005, #38
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, CrankyDad, Dec 19th 2005, #41
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, thrice blessed, Dec 19th 2005, #42
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, zmmnj, Dec 18th 2005, #39
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, madmolly, Dec 19th 2005, #40
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, 7mozzas, Dec 19th 2005, #43
RE: How may to put back to get triplets?, anxiousabuela, Dec 19th 2005, #44



CrankyDad
Sat Dec-17-05 07:44 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
25 posts


#151440, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0
Sat Dec-17-05 07:46 AM by CrankyDad

>Is putting 3 back best or is it better to put back 4 in
case one doesn’t implant?

3, unless you want to chance quadruplets.

>We have have male factor infertility so I think my
chances are
high.

Donor sperm?

>Also did you discuss you desire for triplets with your
doctor?

No, we were hoping for twins though.

>Was he supportive in helping achieve your end goal or did
he discourage you?

Usually, discussions with reproductive doctors are more about
optimizing chances for A pregnancy, period, and do not focus
on how many children are desired. Single pregnancies are
considered optimal and multiple pregnancies are considered
sub-optimal except maybe twins

>I have not discussed this with my doctor yet because I am
afraid he will try to talk me out of it and be discouranging.

You can let him know that you would be just as pleased with
more than one as you would be with one and then he may be
more open to putting one or two more embryos back in. Or
maybe not....

>Would discussing it with my doctor increase my chances?

Depending on your doctor and his style of course but... I
would think your desire would be viewed skeptically.

Most people on this board feel very blessed and joyful to
have three beautiful babies/children in their lives, me
included, but it doesn't always work out so happily, and
sometimes it's a heartbreaking disaster.

Just my opinion; best wishes for your reproductive journey.


Alec, dad to the three little lovelies, gbg.

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tlyman
Sat Dec-17-05 07:50 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
333 posts


#151441, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

Your RE is trying to ensure a healthy pregnancy. Most RE's will not "try" for multiples- as multiple pregnancies are riskier than singletons.

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LW Trips2005
Sat Dec-17-05 10:58 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
244 posts


#151446, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

My RE actually considered my triplet pregnancy a
"failure" although we did IVF and only put back 2
excellent quality blastocysts and ended up with 3 (my boys
are identical twins). Fertility clinics pride their numbers
and statistics on singleton births - I know that if I told my
RE I wanted to try for triplets he would not have supported
it!!!!

A note of caution - While I love my triplets more than
anything in the world, it is HARD (at least the 1st 5 months
have been!) - especially having a 22 month old when they were
born. Also, I was very fortunate and spent no time on
bedrest, carried my trio to almost 37 weeks and they came
right home with me but that is not the norm...a triplet
pregnancy can be very difficult.

Best Wishes in your journey to motherhood!!!!
Laura
Emma - 8/8/03
BBG Triplets - c/s 6/21/05 @ 36w6d

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HeatherJ513
Sat Dec-17-05 01:12 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
72 posts


#151449, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 3

I don't think that I would discuss this plan with your doctor.
As mentioned by others here triplets are not easy. I feel
blessed everyday when I wake up to my smiling trio and I
would not trade them for anything. But the pregnancy part of
it can be very difficult. I was on bedrest from 20 weeks
until I delivered at 34 weeks. I only went out of the house
when I had to go to the doctor. I was admitted 3 times for
ptl. I had a nurse come to the house every week to give me
injections to help me from going into labor. My pregnancy all
in all was not as difficult as some you may read about on
here. There are so many complications that you have to
consider when dealing with a multiple pregnancy. We
transferred 3 embryos praying that 1 would implant. So as
they say "you cannot count your chickens before they are
hatched". Good luck to you.

Hugs,
Heather
Proud mama to:
Jenna 11
Zack 9
Joey, Emma, Gracie 6 1/2 months

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joy of three
Sat Dec-17-05 01:21 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
186 posts


#151450, "I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M READING THIS"
In response to Reply # 0

after suffering through infertility myself, i can understand
why the thought of avoiding the pain of secondary infertility
would be attractive. on many occasions i've thought, as hard
as this is, i don't have to worry about going through
treatments again and i have three children.

that being said, i am APPALLED that you would TRY to conceive
triplets. i implore you to really consider your motivations;
i believe having triplets as your goal is completely SELFISH.


you are putting the lives of three innocent babies at risk
before they are even conceived. after the fact, we are all
faced with the risk of carrying three babies. most of us
PAINSTAKINGLY brought them into this world. most of us have
cried at the sides of three isolettes. some of us have cried
at funerals. and some of us dedicate ourselves to children
who must live with permanent effects of prematurity.

does that sound like reasonable risk because you think you
would be "a great mother to triplets"? how would
you even know that?? would it be worth it to jeopardize
three innocent babies because you are
"FASCINATED"???? ANY doctor who would support your
trying for triplets should have his license REVOKED.

frankly, it's people like you that encourage and perpetuate
the ignorance that many families of multiples endure from the
public.

if this post seems harsh, try holding your babies and feeling
the guilt of not being able to rip yourself in three- so that
each baby could have the undivided attention every baby
deserves. try feeling the pain of thinking that your babies
didn't ask for this. and that is with three healthy babies.
i can only imagine the guilt of having triplets via IVF and
not having a good outcome.

i can only hope that your IVF clinic is RESPONSIBLE enough to
follow ASRM guidelines when determining how many embryos to
transfer into a fertile uterus, and NOT the ignorant wishes
of their patients.


Joy- mama to
boy, 3lbs 15oz
girl, 4lbs
girl, 4lbs 1oz
at 32+ weeks on Jan 22, 2005


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Jen.
Sat Dec-17-05 01:25 PM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
37 posts


#151453, "RE: I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M READING THIS"
In response to Reply # 5

Wow, you said it so so so much better than I did.

Its a hard thing to say, but it NEEDS to be said.


Jen

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Jen.
Sat Dec-17-05 01:21 PM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
37 posts


#151451, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

Although most triplet pregnancies are most often times
manageable from a medical standpoint.... It still presents a
unique set of dangers for both mom and baby. Triplet babies
are at higher risk for medical conditions like autism,
cerebral palsy, vision problems, and overall developmental
delays. It is not considered normal or healthy to WISH for
them and its even more suspect to actively TRY for them.

Whenever I hear about someone who is actively TRYING for
triplets I always question the person's motives. Why do they
want triplets? Is it the attention and fame they will bring
them? 99% of the time the answer to that question is yes. I
honestly can't imagine any appropriate reason for wanting to
put yourself and your children at risk. Keep in mind that
MOST of us on this board were trying for ONE baby when we
ended up with three/four. We did NOT seek this for
ourselves, but we did not run away from the challenge either
(selective reduction).

Perhaps you would benefit from having a little chat with a
psychatrist to understand your own motives. You may not
even realize them yourself. And I guarantee if you walk
into an RE's office saying you WANT triplets that's the first
place they are going to send you. And they might even reject
you outright.

I know I am totally going to get flamed for this, but I felt
it was important to say. I know there are many others who
feel that way but are too afraid to speak up.


Jen

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fivenelli
Sat Dec-17-05 01:36 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
111 posts


#151455, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 6

Well said, Jen. I had a pretty great outcome in terms of the
health of my children, but there is no way that I'd ever
knowingly take on the risks of a triplet pregnancy again.
Jeanne
Mommy to Frank, Grace & Sarah 1/18/02

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lovemy4
Sat Dec-17-05 01:32 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
312 posts


#151454, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

Check out a NICU. Tell me how great of a mom you'll be to 1
pound babies hooked up to ventilators. Then come back and
check out our bereavement board. Where did you get your
fairytale idea of triplets? I love my boys, I adore them. I
thank God everyday for my babies, but my triplets suffered so
much due to prematurity issues. That's not something I would
have ever wished on them.

Jenni
Proud mom to BBB born 09-02-03 @ 32.2 wks
and 8 yr old big brother

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Erikall
Sat Dec-17-05 01:40 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
743 posts


#151456, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0
Sat Dec-17-05 01:48 PM by Erikall

I can't even believe you're thinking like this, and I hope
it's a joke.

Why don't you read a few posts in the bereaved parents
section and see if a "planned" triplet pregnancy is
still appealing, it doesn't always turn out perfect.

I have never had a post actually make me sick to my stomach.
Congrats, you're the first.

A good mother to triplets? You are already showing the
opposite to be true by purposely wanting to put them through
the high risks of a triplet pregnancy.

I know IF sucks...and I hope you have a healthy baby. But why
put three in danger because you are infatuated with
triplets?????

Erika
Mom to:Matt 14,Megan 11
^Eric Jr^(10/15-11/12/03), Levi & Vivian born 10/15/03 @ 26 weeks
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/l/levivivian/



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5roman
Sat Dec-17-05 02:11 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
230 posts


#151459, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

Well said by all.

It's just the beginning of your journey, good luck to you
sincerely. Be open to things not going as planned, thats the
infertility ride.

I have birth twins and also an adopted son, very close in
age.

If you want 3, adopt internationally, there are plenty of
kids out there, and that is quite a journey on its own, its
amazing and when you pay you then get a baby, thats a promise
not a crap shoot.

There is nothing wrong with spacing kids out either, just
remember the entire infertility "thing" is we can
not plan out when or how many kids we have like
"normal" people, so I do suggest support groups and
counseling for infertility, it's helpful.
Denise
adopted son from Guatemala born 9/19/01, to US 6/26/02,
IVF b/g twins 4/26/02
babes 7 months 1 week apart and cared for like triplets

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karenms50
Sat Dec-17-05 02:18 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
957 posts


#151461, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 11

I really hope this post is a joke...sick one of course. I
wonder if this person is for real...should be looked into.


Karen - lucky wife to Paul,
Proud mom to spontaneous boys

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lodyp
Sat Dec-17-05 02:32 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
32 posts


#151463, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

well, girls, tell me this, can you be a lurker and not be a
member to this group? This person claims to be a lurker (or
just a sick mind) and yet she/he just joined the group
today........ ????


I will tell you this is no easy ride. I am 28 weeks today
and I am laying here in bed paranoid of PTL. It consumes me
as I lost the other 3 at 22 weeks. I don't want these boys
early. And I mean I am REALLY paranoid.

Someone, if you could, check on this person.......




Melody
^BBB^ 11-03-03 at 22 weeks
BBB due soon. I am 28 weeks! We are destined for boys!

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bsebllmom9
Sat Dec-17-05 02:44 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
691 posts


#151465, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

As someone who has gone throught IF for 5+ years to get my
miracles, after having the blessings of God to have my 2
older children, I'm insulted to read this post!! I can't
believe you would come here and ask us how we got triplets!!!
I personally was not trying for triplets. I was praying and
hoping month after month for years to have one baby. I never
dreamed I would have 3 babies. I actually was starting to
think I would never have another baby period. But I was
blessed with my miracles and let me tell you, it was THE
hardest thing I've ever done in my life. The whole entire
pregnancy was filled with worry and fear that I would lose 1,
2 or all of my babies. I spent 90% of my pregnancy on bedrest
from bleeding, contractions very early on and then the last
10 weeks in the hospital hooked up to monitors and magnesium
sulfate to help keep my babies in as long as possible, to
give them the best chance possible...I know that's not how I
envisioned my pregnancy to go.

Then my babies were born and I didn't get to see them for an
entire day. They were intubated right away (tubes down their
throats to help them breath, in case you haven't researched
enough yet) and I couldn't hold my babies for almost a week
after their lives began. My smallest gave us a couple of
scares, but wss a fighter. I spent every day - all day that I
could in that NICU room with my children and worrying and
praying every day that they would come home and not get sick
while in the NICU, not have permanent damage from the
medications they were on to sustain their lives, etc...Every
time the phone rang at home, I prayed to God that it wasn't
the NICU calling to say something bad was happening to my
babies...I was one of the lucky ones. There are some here
that weren't as lucky as me and my heart breaks every time I
see a post from them and I pray that things could have been
different. They worked just as hard as me and things turned
out so different....

I would suggest you seriously think about your reasons for
wanting triplets. If it is for the attention, trust me, you
will tire of it VERY quickly. Most of us here want to blend
in with everyone else, most of us here don't want to be
stared at and most of us here would rather perfect strangers
kept their comments and their hands to themselves.

Try instead going into IVF with the idea that you want to
have a healthy baby. Try to get some counseling and get to
the bottom of your ideas of being a mommy. Being a mommy to 3
at once is very hard. You can't give them the attention they
need and you have to split your time between them, sure they
learn to deal, but why should they have to??

If you think having multiples promises help in the formula
and diaper department, blah, blah, trust me, it doesn't!!
Some of us get lucky with some help, but most have to go into
debt temporarily to cover the cost of all the food, clothes
and necessities that more than one baby needs.

Also, think about your marriage. How strong is it? Even the
strongest of marriages are put under an incredible amount of
strain for at least the first year. Some marriages here have
ended during the first year, for whatever reason. Some are
forever strained and others make it through. But there is
definitely a change in your marriage and relationship with
your husband. Yes, I know any child can do that, but with
multiples, there is more work, more stress and more times
that you don't have with your spouse that is needed or
desired...

Is having triplets all bad? Hell no. It's a lot of work and I
wouldn't trade it for the world. I was chosen to be a mommy to
these three beautiful children. Would I do it again if given
the choice? Yes. Would I actively seek it out? NO WAY!! I
want my children to be happy and healthy. I'm working my butt
of to make sure ALL my children are growing up happy and
well-adjusted.

Just rethink your thoughts and ideas and really read the
replies that you asked for. I'd be surprised and a little
disappointed if you get the answers YOU are looking for here.
I don't think there should be anyone here telling you how to
best improve your odds for triplets. Doctors don't or
shouldn't be helping their patients have more than one baby
at a time. If your doctor does help you with this, I would
seriously think about his ethics and morals. He's putting
your life and the life of your potential unborn children in
danger and to me, that's a quack!!!

Good luck on your pregnancy journey and I wish you a short
ride on the IF rollercoaster. I wish you a healthy prenancy
and a healthy baby.

Michelle

~33wk2d~BGB
~Ayden~(id)~Ryley~(frat)~Dylan~(id)~
Stephanie~13yo
Tyler~14.5yo
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/

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boomom
Sat Dec-17-05 02:52 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
480 posts


#151466, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

As much as I love my three, I wouldn't wish a triplet
pregnancy on anyone. I really wish I could have had my three
as singletons, three separate pregnancies.
The risks of a HOM pregnancy to the mother and babies are
legion and to intentionally want to conceive a triplet
pregnancy is just unbelievable to me. Luckily, my pregnancy
produced a healthy outcome, but my trio are 8yo and MY body
is still suffering the consequences of the pregnancy.
I suggest you examine the real reasons you want to conceive
triplets. Like another poster said, is it for the
"triplet fame"? The whole novelty of having
triplets--the cutsie-cutsie way the media portrays having
triplets? Parenting three or more children of the same age is
extremely difficult---financially, physically and mentally.
The first year is extremely difficult and although it does
get a bit easier as they get older, you are faced with other
challenges that parents of singletons do not experience.
School issues, friends issues, sending three to college at
the same time, you are CONSTANTLY running from event to event
to event. Learning disabilities that you can't help but wonder
would have not exsisted had you not carried them closer to
term.
Sorry if my words seem harsh but the reality of a HOM
pregnancy can be harsh.
Gina---formerly known as trpsn1
G 11yo
BGG 8yo

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MSTAR
Sat Dec-17-05 02:59 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
358 posts


#151467, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

I hope this post is fake because I feel physically ill reading
it. If this person is for real then I would think she needs a
psychologist and not an RE. Seriously. As if ANY of us
actually PLANNED on having triplets. OMG! I think I'm going
to go throw up. Somebody please tell me this is FAKE!
Michele
Sarah, Gregory, Amanda
born 1/22/04 at 35w1d

Austin Dale born 06/15/2005 at 39wks

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Colette
Sat Dec-17-05 03:17 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
362 posts


#151472, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 16
Sat Dec-17-05 03:18 PM by Colette

There are just too many things about this post that bother me.
You are lurking here to figure out how to specifically have
Triplets??? You say that you found others who have done
specific things to purposely have Triplets?? Maybe what you
should be seeing is a psychologist not a RE. Your hope and
plan should be to have a healthy pregnancy and be happy and
know you are blessed with what you get, NOT want something
that you have no clue about.

Maybe I am a bit sensitive cause I just got fooled another
board with another sicko looking for whatever attention they
think they are getting.


Colette





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Party of 5
Sat Dec-17-05 03:16 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
1385 posts


#151471, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0
Sat Dec-17-05 03:31 PM by Party of 5

Well if this post is a fake then this person needs serious
psycholigical help (can you say mentally and emotionally
unstable?).

Perhaps Jeff to look into this person since obviously they do
not have HOM and really have no need to be a member of this
forum.


Also Wantingthree, you seem to be under the impression that
we "wanted triplets" and did whatever we could to
have them. You chould not be more wrong.
This forum is not like other forums you find on the internet.
We do not come here discussing ways to produce multiples. We
are a close-knit community and to be honest we do not take
kindly to others who try to have a high-risk pregnancy on
purpose. You say you'd make a great mother yet you are
willing to take a chance on your children (on purpuse) who
will most like be born premature and have some length of stay
in the NICU.

Michel


Born 12/21/03



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Tasha
Sat Dec-17-05 03:32 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
744 posts


#151473, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

I agree with the others here. I think actually trying for a
triplet pregnancy is putting your own selfish desire above
the best interest of the babies and your own health. And
that is not a good start for a “great mother”. Yes those of
us here were blessed with triplets, but it was not our
intention to have triplets. Most of us were shocked when we
found out but we had to make the best of the situation handed
to us. What you are asking for here is to engineer a triplet
pregnancy with this dream in your head of an easy, or
relatively easy pregnancy where you follow all the rules and
come home with three healthy babies. But what you are really
asking for is to defy the odd over and over again. A triplet
pregnancy is anything but predictable. With a triplet (or
more) pregnancy even a mom can do everything right and
follows all of her doctors orders and still the outcome isn’t
always ideal. There is no predicting how a body will respond
to a triplet pregnancy. Even previous pregnancies aren’t
good predictors. There is no sugar coating it, a triplet
pregnancy is high risk.

As another poster pointed out I also question the motives of
someone who wants to try for triplets. It would seem for
selfish reason of the mother. If a true desire to be a
mother and raise a family was the motive then the number of
children would be immaterial. But trying for triplets sounds
more like wanting the lime light and attention or to fill some
other selfish emotional issue of the mother. Either way it is
the babies that would end up paying for it.

My advice would be yes discuss you “end goal” with your
doctor. Then at least one sane person would be involved in
the decision making process. He can also explain to you more
of the dangers you are ASKING to put your children in.
Tasha
Julia, Megan and Alex, July 2000 @ 30 weeks and Abby Dec. 2002
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/t/tashajmaa/



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bsebllmom9
Sat Dec-17-05 03:39 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
691 posts


#151475, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 19

Tasha~What a cute card! lol

Michelle

~33wk2d~BGB
~Ayden~(id)~Ryley~(frat)~Dylan~(id)~
Stephanie~13yo
Tyler~14.5yo
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/

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Jen.
Sat Dec-17-05 03:42 PM
Member since Sep 28th 2005
37 posts


#151476, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

>In reading recently I see that there are others
>who have done IVF expressly trying for triplets also.

I wanted to ask...where did you ever read such a thing on
this site???? That I know of there have only been one
possible two other people who have ever openly admitted to
such a thing on this site. A small number especially
considering there are thousands of members.

And don't think that just because you didn't read about
anyone chastising them for trying for another set of triplets
ON PURPOSE that it means they had our collective stamp of
approval. All that means is that there wasn't anyone willing
to stand up to a vetran member. Members here are less likely
to stand up to other members than they are a complete
stranger/newbie. I hope you don't take the irresponsible
comments of others trying for triplets and translate that to
mean its okay.


Jen

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queenbee
Sat Dec-17-05 03:53 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
253 posts


#151478, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

I can't believe the responses to this question! I think she
has gotten the message by now. It is one thing to point out
the risks of a triplet pregnancy, and kindly tell her that
one wouldn't wish those risks on one's unborn children, but
to attack her--that is just mean. The girl has been TTC for
5 years. I'm sure the idea of an instant family is
appealing. Give her a break.

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bsebllmom9
Sat Dec-17-05 04:54 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
691 posts


#151490, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 22

Okay, so who decided you were in charge of how many people can
reply to a post??? Did it ever occur to you that we are
passionate about people who would intentionally want to put
children in danger? Not to mention themselves??? Maybe she
needs the harshness of this thread to make her see that
reality is SO much different than her fantasies!!! If you
can't believe the responses, why read on? Why bother posting
to it?
Michelle

~33wk2d~BGB
~Ayden~(id)~Ryley~(frat)~Dylan~(id)~
Stephanie~13yo
Tyler~14.5yo
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aydenryleydylan/

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bgg trio
Sat Dec-17-05 04:05 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
308 posts


#151481, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

No respectable RE would help you try to conceive a triplet
pregnancy. I don't think anybody really plan on or shoot for
a triplet pregnancy. While I am one of the lucky ones who
"beat the odds", delivered past 34 weeks and ended
up with 3 healthy children, I was on "pins and
needles" during the entire pregnancy. It also saddens
me remembering the 2 weeks they spent in the NICU and not
being able to spend more individual time with each one.
Granted I am thankful God gave me my trio and wouldn't have
it any other way, I never wished for triplets knowing the
risks of prematurity and long term disabilities involved.

Div
mom of bgg

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peanutsmomma
Sat Dec-17-05 04:34 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
277 posts


#151486, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0
Sat Dec-17-05 04:35 PM by peanutsmomma

Um did you hear the thud as my jaw just hit the floor, I can't
really eloquently write a detailed post here as others have
without working myself up. My children are the biggest
blessing of my life and I would never ever trade them for
anything, however as a good friend of mine posted triplets
affect evey aspect of your life and marriage and other
childrens's lives too. Triplets are not a novelty or a cute
idea you saw on a target ad or an advil commecial they are
human beings who are usually brought into the world after
years of tears and prayers for one healthy baby and then the
reality of a frightening pregnancy and only some of us have
been blessed with the miracle of all 3 surviving which is
another thing that breaks my heart and makes me feel ashamed
whenever I am stressed at home, at least I am lucky enough to
have 3 to stress me out............Seriously you need a
reality check, I told my RE how I was worried about multiples
and he told me with 3 little follies it would be a miracle if
I concieved one baby with a 70% chance of carrying to term
and twins would be an even bigger miracle but not likely.
sorry to not offer you support that you seak but you need to
come to grips with your desires for triplets and do some
research on the realities of carrying triplets........ many
of us did because we do not believe in selective reduction
and would rather put our own lives on the line that make such
a harrowing choice that I know would haunt me for life.
Cristina
proud mom of a toddler and my ggg trio!

Before you were born I loved you
Before you were here an hour I would die for you
This is the miracle of life."
~Maureen Hawkins


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kylamel
Sat Dec-17-05 04:47 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
206 posts


#151488, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 24

to Wanting 3 -

this is not the site to post your very selfish desire for
triplets. If you truly have been TTC for 5+ years, I would
believe that you would be happy with 1 baby. Trying to
conceive multiples is ignorant and selfish in my opinion. I
love my trio (and older daughter) to pieces, but did not
purposely set out for triplets.

So to Wanting 3, do yourself a favor, visit a NICU, visit
March of Dimes website, educate yourself and if you still
really want 3, go adopt!!!
http://lilypie.com>

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Lots_of_fun
Sat Dec-17-05 04:49 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
121 posts


#151489, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

I think you need to see a doctor because you are not normal.
Sorry to be so upfront. There are other ways to get attention
maybe you should take a different avenue!!
Karen
Mom of Nina,Gaetano & Elizabeth
34w5d
Our website www.amorosotriplets.com
http://lilypie.com>

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9weekcounting
Sat Dec-17-05 05:51 PM
Member since Jul 29th 2005
225 posts


#151495, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 26

You have to be joking me....I am 29 weeks today and I am so
scared for my babies....This has to be a joke...please
someone tell me its a joke....






Mandie(wife to my best friend Matt)
expecting bgb triplets
(orginal EDD 3/4/2006)

(formally waiting4three)

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Megan Welfare
Sat Dec-17-05 08:48 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
410 posts


#151527, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 28

Hi Wanting3,

Most of us on this board are thrilled with our blessings now,
but weren't so excited when we first found out it was triplets
or more. We accepted the challenge, but most were certainly
not looking for it! There are so many complications that are
VERY common in HOM pregnancies. Almost all of us on this
board were on bedrest, with threatened early deliveries.
Almost all of us had babies that were preemies. Almost all
of us had babies in the NICU, most of the time struggling to
survive. Many of us are dealing with the severe long-term
medical problems associated with premature babies (cerebral
palsy, vision & hearing problems, learning disabilities,
etc.). Many of us have lost babies before or at birth - it's
VERY common.

I never expected to go to 5 or so medical/therapy
appointments a week. I never expected to wonder if my kids
were ever be able to live a "normal" life. I am
very healthy & come from a healthy family - surely I
would have healthy kids, right? Prematurity is an ugly
thing. My kids won't be athletes. They won't be scholars.
Etc. At this point, I will be thankful if they are able to
fully function on their own as adults and be self-supporting.
And believe me, I did everything right during this pregnancy.
I was so paranoid. But doing everything right is no
guarantee of a perfect outcome.

I also didn't understand the enormous financial impact - $10
copay x 5 appts per week. $100 formula per week. $100
diapers per week. Clothing. Carseats. Etc. People give
you everything to start up, but gracious, it's expensive to
keep going! Also, we realized that putting three in daycare
was more expensive than I earn, and I was a CPA, so I made a
decent salary.

When you think of twins or triplets, it sounds like fun. But
the reality of it is very different. I love my children so
much, and given that this is the situation I was handed, I
wouldn't do anything differently. But if I had had a choice
about how many I would get pregnant with, I would never have
chosen to have multiples. I couldn't do that to my children.
Between health issues, the problems with having your own
identity, etc., it's just not a life I would choose for my
kids. I love them too much!

I know that you are probably desperate for children, as were
many of us. At the time, I thought it was the hardest thing
I would ever go through (that was pre-NICU!). I know that it
is a heartbreaking journey. But I think that your imagination
has idealized what life would be like with triplets. The
reality is very different. Good luck getting pregnant, but I
hope that you only get pregnant with one!! If you do, count
your blessings. If you end up with 3 or more, come on back
to this forum, and welcome!
BGG born 4/25/05 at 31w1d


http://lilypie.com>


http://lilypie.com>

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momoftreasures
Sat Dec-17-05 08:37 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
541 posts


#151525, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 26

sorry everyone I could not even read the replys it was just so
disturbing. Ya maybe the post sounds crazy but lets just
remember what it was like to look at the pee stick month
after month and cry to god why we had not been choosen to be
mommy's. I remember never wanting to have multiples it was
one of the reasons when our clomid was proven to not be any
help we choose to adopt. Then we went through the heart
breaking experience of some adoption agency telling us our
daughter would not be price taged as a minority because they
were going to pass her off as a caucausion baby. Ya sick
this is what we lived before we did our IUI process. I
remember when they RE called and left the message on the test
hotline that my chances without injections were 0. I sat in
my car on the side of a fricken freeway and cried out to god.
I got so upset with him I finally Yell at him and said ok
fine if multiples is what you want to give me then bring it
on PLease I just wanted a baby. Three weeks later we did IUI
and I became pg first try with our trio. The fear and panic
and stress was unbearable at first and they are today 2 years
old. But I would never go back and change that. Some people
have no idea what the experience is like I had no idea what
triplets were like before my IUI process and maybe this women
has no idea either. If she is really I read past her pain and
realized that this women is longing for a family and IVF tends
to be very expensive....I am not saying what she is asking is
right just that we need to still respect her as a women
suffering with infertility issues. She simply wanted to know
about us because maybe someday GOD will choose to make her
just as special. I think everyone needs to realize that you
can do anything in the world to get PG but GOD IS THE ONE
THAT MAKES THE ULTIMATE DECISION......
So people also have to realize we all made the decion to be
at risk for having more then one baby everyone in the world
that decides to populate it takes that risk....not only to
infertile couples have triplets.....
I am sure I will get yelled at for my post but it rubbed me
the wrong way that everyone went off....Maybe she is checking
out our site to prepare her self if it did happen it is a risk
of IVF...

Sometimes Doctors make mistakes. We did IUI and told the RE
that we did not want to have more then 2 follicles that had
good eggs because I wanted to get pg and finish my nursing
degree prior to the babies birth. I had only one semster
left of my 2 year LPN degree and I had a two year old at
home. Well we went in think ok everything is set. The nurse
did our IUI and then told us to sit back relax and she would
take the time to go over our information. Well She failed to
tell us prior to the procedure that we had five good follicles
with possible five excellent eggs and I had also done
Pergonal...As you can imagine HOLY **** I started to cry and
told DH oh my god we are having triplets oh my god we are
going to have triplets. The nurse rushed out of the room and
came in with severe apologies we had to drive 5 hours to the
clinic for the procedure and they had made the mistake. She
offered me the morning after pill and told me we would flush
the cycle. I was so upset took a deep breath and said NO,
what is done is done and I strongly believed that if god
wanted them her he had made it possible by the mistake. I
left the office crying and called a friend and she said oh
amy it will be fine you will have triplets but you will be
fine. She was so sure during our daily injections I guess
she was right...We did have triplets and they are beutiful
and lots of work but they were so ment to be....A suprize but
one I would never change. I guess God in the long run always
has the final say at least that is what he has shown US.....

We are doing IUI in March of 2008 and trusting he will know
what is best once again....


Amy Houle

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kappy03
Sun Dec-18-05 11:52 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
114 posts


#151588, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 29

Well said!!! Why people seem so quick to attack and cry
"fake" is beyond me. I can feel her pain, even
though I did not go through IVF. I lost two babies to
miscarriage prior to the girls and I understand the longing
and pain to have a child. Thankfully, God blessed me, as he
did each of us with a great gift. That is not to say shock
and fear were not a equal part of the joy of having three.
Support is the key attribute to this website, not drama.
Lets give the benefit of the doubt and offer words of wisdom,
not angry attacks.

Good Luck to you and your family "Wanting3".
Katherine Mommy to identical girls
30 weeks 5 days on 9/22/04
www.marykay.com/katherinepaulson

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GOVOLSGIRL
Sun Dec-18-05 01:09 AM
Member since Jul 27th 2005
29 posts


#151547, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 26

wow. i am floored. i have always found this board to be
helpful and supportive until today. while it's certainly our
prerogative to feel that trying for triplets isnt the best
idea, it is likewise hers to want them. as a nicu veteran, i
can say it is terrifying, and my pregnancy was very rough and
my delivery very dangerous. so...trying for triplets isnt the
best idea. BUT...you all really flamed this person and for
what? did it honestly make you feel better to be so cruel? if
you found that you were patting yourself on the back after
those mean posts, then you have some issuesand might should
consider seeing a psychologist.

i am so disappointed. this is a great site but i dont know
that i am intersted in posting here anymore. for heaven's
sake...i have always felt that mothers are brutally critical
of other mothers...ie to bfeed/ffeed. cry it out or
dont...etc. rarely do women give others the benefit of the
doubt and offer support. i think that is what this board and
being a decent human being is about. if nothing else...it is
christmas. does that not make anything in you desire to be
loving and compassionate? especially those of us who battled
infertility should be able to be honest while being gentle.
infertility is hell. cut a person some slack for thinking a
little differently than you. and when you hug your babies
this christmas, realize that this woman's arms are still
empty.
B/B/G TRIPLETS DUE 01/01/06

http://lilypie.com>

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tulip
Sun Dec-18-05 01:23 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
4000 posts


#151548, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

We followed proper guidelines for our IVF/ICSI procedure. We put back three embryos and ended up with triplets. It was a calculated risk, but I'm glad we took it. The pregnancy was extremely difficult, as was the delivery & post-partum period, and it's certainly no cake walk to be a mother to three newborns (or toddlers, or preschoolers). However, I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.

We were not trying for triplets, but I did pray with all my heart that all three embryos would stick. I wanted three babies with all of my being, as I knew that would be our one & only chance to ever get pregnant or have a baby. I was thrilled & ecstatic and filled with elation when we found out triplets were on the way. It was the happiest day of my life. I cried & laughed with overwhelming joy from the news for hours & hours. I had always wanted three children, and as my 40th birthday came & went I was certain that would never happen. To find out that God had finally blessed me with my hearts desire was beyond words.

I am saddened but not surprised to see the vehemence and strong language used by most of the respondants to this thread. While I understand the motivation to counsel someone based on real-life experience, it is still unpleasant to read. I would NEVER encourage someone to "try" for triplets, and honestly I have to question the motivation of someone trying for triplets because of a "fascination" about triplets. However, having gone through over 4 years of infertility, I certainly understand the heart breaking desire to do whatever it takes to finally have a baby. I'm going to assume that, if the person posting this original question is genuine and not a troll (please forgive me if you're genuine*), then it's just a matter of being over-exhuberent in word choices that makes the triplet lust seem so odd.

* We have a lot of trolls & fakers who come our way, so please forgive my skepticism.

Tulip & The Three Amigos
GBG born at 35w5d on December 31, 2002 - Happy New Year's Eve!!!

YES! You *can* breastfeed triplets!!!

I am a Velveteen Rabbit, and the birth, love, kisses & magic that are my children has made me Real.

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kylamel
Sun Dec-18-05 02:15 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
206 posts


#151555, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 32

there are many of us who have tried for years and years to get pregnant with the dream of having A healthy baby. I believe that the negative feedback is because this woman indicated that she wants triplets - not a baby, but triplets. Tulip worded it perfectly with "fascination with triplets". I think that people just dont quite understand that, yes 2, 3, 4 infants together look all cute, but they are babies who have needs, who cry, who require work, love, attention. I personally had years of TTC and would have (AND AM) so happy with whatever God blessed me with.
http://lilypie.com>

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CrankyDad
Sun Dec-18-05 07:44 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
25 posts


#151580, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

Personally, I think it was a troll, pure and simple, but
there's always a small chance such posts are real so I gave
some straight and narrow answers/opinions to the questions
because of my strong interest in infertility and overcoming
it.

To me, this was the giveaway:

>>> We have have male factor infertility so I think
my chances
are high. <<<

Huh? non sequitur.

Alec, dad to the three little lovelies, gbg.

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TripleScoop
Sun Dec-18-05 08:03 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
805 posts


#151582, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 34

Actually, our doctor told us that since we had male factor
infertility our chancer were higher that we would achieve a
pregnacy-though we have not yet!


BBB Triplets Born 2003


http://www.mormon.org
http://www.loveandlogic.com

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CrankyDad
Sun Dec-18-05 09:22 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
25 posts


#151586, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 35

Male problem infertility can be --and in fact generally is--
just as much an obstacle to pregnancy as female problem
infertility. It's true that in IVF the ICSI procedure
(direct injection) does bypass some sperm issues, like
motility (should be called "mobility"), but...

There's nothing *in general* about male problem infertility
that will increase anyone's chances for pregnancy. The
original poster was entirely general about it, and thus the
non-sequitur.

This may seem like an obvious point but infertility problems,
whether male or female, only make pregnancy more difficult,
not less.


Alec, dad to the three little lovelies, gbg.

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joy of three
Sun Dec-18-05 12:39 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
186 posts


#151590, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 36

actually, it IS true that her chances are higher. her uterus
is fertile for implantation. male factor infertility usually
involves problems with swimming to and boring into an egg,
which is bypassed with ICSI.

once embryos which survive for transfer are created, the
fertility issues are completely bypassed.

unless, of course, there are genetic issues.



Joy- mama to
boy, 3lbs 15oz
girl, 4lbs
girl, 4lbs 1oz
at 32+ weeks on Jan 22, 2005


http://lilypie.com/baby1/060122/3/19/1/-5/.png[/img][/url]

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CrankyDad
Mon Dec-19-05 07:30 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
25 posts


#151692, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 38

I did mention ICSI and how it can bypass some, not all, male
fertility issues, but the original poster did NOT mention
ICSI or any other information on why she thinks that having
male infertility will increase her chances for triplets.

YOU supplied the information that could make her statement
sensible. She said nothing about ICSI. She said nothing about
having an especially fertile uterus. She said nothing about
her husband having sperm motility or acrosome penetration
issues. What she said was "We have male factor
infertility so I think my chances are high". She didn't
even say that her doctor thinks her chances are high. So
maybe her chances ARE high, but it wouldn't be because her
husband is infertile. It just doesn't follow logically and
is therefore a non-sequitur as i said. That, together with
all the other carelessness in her post, leads me to think she
was simply trolling for emotional reaction, and it worked!

But maybe she is real, who knows? I replied because the
issues interest me, and in case she was real I offered a bit
of gentle counsel against trying for triplets.

Really none of us should've replied because she explicitly
asked...

>>> I see that there are others
who have done IVF expressly trying for triplets also. I was
hoping I could get a few questions answered from you.
<<<

... to hear from 'others who've done IVF expressly trying for
triplets' which by reading all the replies, none of us did.

So on that count we are all guilty of jumping in where we
weren't invited. But I doubt any damage was done because I
doubt the inquiry was genuine in the first place. But i
could be wrong of course... in which case i apologize to
*Wanting3* for my unsolicited advice.


Alec, dad to the three little lovelies, gbg.

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thrice blessed
Mon Dec-19-05 08:52 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
168 posts


#151696, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 41

Actually, ICSI does bypass all male fertility issues. That
being said, this does not mean it will produce a pregnancy.
The odds are lower but not impossible if there is a
morphology (abnormal sperm) problem. What issues do you think
ICSI doesn't bypass? Just wondering. Because even if a man has
absolutely zero sperm in his semen, then surgical or
nonsurgical aspiration (TESA or MESA) can be done to retrieve
sperm and is then done in combination with ICSI to fertilize
the eggs.

The reason the success rates are higher when IVF is done when
only male factor issues are present is because the chances of
egg-related issues, uterine issues, or any fertility issues
with the woman are much less likely.

Now, as far as genetics go it is possible that fertility
issues can be passed on to a son, esp. with men who have
severe male factor or a zero sperm count. A lot of men have
sperm issues due to health issues or injury, so the
percentage of genetic causes is fairly low.
Lisa

http://lilypie.com>

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zmmnj
Sun Dec-18-05 11:39 PM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
158 posts


#151654, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

I only put back two and ended up with 2 idents and a frat.
Good luck!
Paige
mom to Brad, Quinn and Kane

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madmolly
Mon Dec-19-05 02:47 AM
Member since Oct 07th 2005
127 posts


#151675, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

If she had truly been lurking here for a while and her post
was written with sincerity, she would have known to keep her
thoughts to herself about "expressly trying for"
multiples.

Clearly this poster got the reaction desired! I would save
your words for something more deserving.
Lea

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7mozzas
Mon Dec-19-05 09:50 AM
Member since Jul 19th 2005
664 posts


#151698, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0
Mon Dec-19-05 09:51 AM by 7mozzas

I must chime in too:
This has got to be a joke, right?
I have only come into contact with one other mother who
wanted triplets, actually quadruplets to be exact. I thought
she was absolutely nuts, and it turned out that she was!
Do you have any idea how much risk is involved with a HOM
pregnancy?
Please be wise in the decisions you make.
Maybe be thankful if you come out from the trenches of
infertility with one baby born alive and well.
7mozz

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anxiousabuela
Mon Dec-19-05 12:27 PM
Member since Sep 26th 2005
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#151702, "RE: How may to put back to get triplets?"
In response to Reply # 0

As I sat in my DD's hospital room last night, I pondered this.
She too TTC for 5 years and those of us who loved her went
through anguish for her as month by month went by without a
hope of a child to hold. In August she had 2 perfect
potential people implanted and as the Lord wove those little
beings, we found out in October that one had split and now
there are three. Out of all my children, she was the one
that the Lord knew would handle infertility by watching her
siblings and peers begin their families with a sweet spirit
and out of all of my children, He also knew that she would be
best equipped to handle the challenges of triplets BUT, I
would never have 'wished' this on her. I wanted her to have
a pregnancy filled with all the excitement and preparations
that others have had. Instead there is the realization that
she is very at risk. It won't be as easy to share in the joy
of these grandchildren's birth in a 'physical' way because
they will at first be fragile. Rather than walk through the
mall looking at baby things with her, I got to push her for
1/2 hour in her wheel chair. A precious time, but not what I
had hoped to share with her! These 3 little boys will be
treasured and are longed for, but I am also very aware of the
challenges we may face in the weeks ahead. She is only 20
weeks and although each day is another day that they are safe
within her, she will hopefully carry them at least 14 more
weeks - weeks perhaps filled with more anxiety and fatigue as
the rest of us try to balance our jobs, Holiday activities at
church and work, family time, and time with this treasured
daughter who is usually alone in her hospital room 45 minutes
away.

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